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for all [Music] listeners in late 2016 a user going by the name of Jason in hell logged on to
redddit ranked one of the 20 most popular websites in the world reded is a social news and discussion site that
features over 3 million forums dedicated to a wide variety of topics called subreddits
Jason in hell clicked on a subreddit titled relationship advice since its Creation in June 2009
the subreddit has amassed 6 million members with a community that boasts whether it's romance friendship family
co-workers or basic human interaction we're here to help Predators use the Forum to post
about their real life relationship issues with other users offering their guidance and support in the
comments posts vary from small sometimes comical misunderstandings to more serious
situations one user vents about his partner who thinks she is a cat in a human's body another questions how they
can move past the jealousy they feel towards their successful sibling others Express Devastation or
relief over a breakup heavy subjects are sometimes broached and commenters emboldened by
anonymity often adopt a tough love approach when providing advice in some cases the original poster
will return to the subreddit to provide an update as to whether or not the advice they received from the community
was successful Jason inel published a post on relationship advice titled I'm having
a hard time coping with my wife having cheated on me with our neighbor he specified that he was 30 years old
but as was standard practice on the Forum he didn't disclose any personal identifiers or the names of anyone else
involved Jason in hell explained I caught my wife cheating on me over a year ago I stayed with her for
the sake of our children but I haven't been able to get it off my mind since [Music]
[Music] [Music] [Music] Jason in hell revealed that his plight had unraveled 476 days prior to posting
about on RIT he knew the exact number of days because every time he caught himself thinking about his wife's
infidelity he would tell himself it's only been X number of days maybe you won't think about it
tomorrow Jason's Story began in May 2015 he had just started a new more demanding project at work that had him
putting in upwards of 60 hours a week during this stressful time Jason noticed that his 29-year-old wife had
added a password to her mobile phone he questioned her about it and she explained she was planning a Father's
Day present for him and didn't want to ruin the surprise about a week later Jason's wife
said she was feeling guilty for keeping a secret from him she revealed that she had hired
their neighbor a 51-year-old contractor to build Jason a home office it struck Jason as odd that his wife
felt guilty as they'd been together for six years and she'd never once said she felt guilty about
anything as time went on things didn't feel right Jason's wife began using her password protected phone more often
sometimes smiling to herself while doing so when Jason asked what she was doing she'd respond nothing then quickly put
her phone away one morning after Jason's wife got in the shower he managed to grab her phone
before it autol locked and required the password to access he scanned her messages and
discovered she had sent a text to their contractor neighbor that read I am all covered in frosting you
want to lick it off there were no other messages between them which Jason later Learned was
because his wife had set up her phone to delete m messages after a certain amount
of time while the text made Jason uncomfortable he was aware that his wife had a quote perverted sense of humor and
was convinced she wouldn't actually do anything to hurt him their neighbor began spending more
and more time at Jason's house but the construction of the home office was taking longer and
longer unable to Shak his paranoia Jason began checking his wife's location via her mobile phone's inbuilt GPS that when
active kept a detailed record of every place the device had gone he noticed there were large gaps in
her GPS history because she kept turning off the function in July Jason gained access to
his wife's phone under the pretense that he needed to download antivirus software
onto it instead he downloaded anti- theft software which allowed him to remotely turn on the phone's GPS while
also reading all its scent and received text messages from his computer the next day Jason monitored
his wife's phone from his computer at work she messaged their neighbor asking to meet up but he couldn't as he was
busy at another job side that night Jason his wife and their two children went out for dinner dinner
with the neighbor his girlfriend and his son the two women had a good time drinking laughing and joking
around after dinner Jason offered to look after the kids so that the two women could go see a movie
together they headed off while Jason his neighbor and their children went back to
Jason's house the kids gathered around to play video games as Jason and his neighbor
sat on ad Jason couches Jason inconspicuously kept an eye on his wife's mobile phone
activity she began texting the neighbor about the sex acts she wanted to perform
with him she then sent him an explicit photo of herself in a bathroom stall they continued to message back and
forth trying to figure out when they could meet up to have sex they settled on Monday morning after
Jason went to work work Jason was barely able to keep his composure as he spied on their
interactions in real time while his neighbor sat across from him none the wiser when the pair texted that they
loved each other Jason was suddenly overcome with the urge to leap off the couch and knock the other man out but he
managed to contain his emotions you're my girl now his neighbor texted his wife always have been his wife
replied then she received the final text from him always will be when the two women returned from the
movie Jason asked them politely to sit down he then sent the children into his son's room and shut the
door so you two love each other huh he asked his wife went into what Jason described as full-blown denial
mode Jason's wife denied that she had been texting their neighbor when Jason showed her the text
messages from that night she buckled admitting that she did send them but it was the first time their interactions
had gone that far Jason then asked his wife if she had sent the man pictures she said no so Jason showed her
the explicit picture she took of herself in the bathroom store once again his wife backtracked
and accepted responsibility though insisted it was the first photo she'd ever sent Jason outright asked his wife if
she was having sex with the neighbor she said no and Jason couldn't prove otherwise to Jason's surprise his
neighbor's girlfriend appeared more forgiving saying that the fling couldn't have been serious if their Partners
hadn't had sex she went on to say that Jason and his wife were too perfect together to
let the affair break them up she and the neighbor soon left Jason told his wife that he was
leaving her which prompted her to threaten that he would never see their kids again Jason wrote on
Reddit she planned on using the fact that I had attempted suicide in high school to prove me unfit to have the
children his wife then blamed him for her infidelity saying it was his fault for being so busy and stressed out with
work she had just wanted someone she could talk to she then gave Jason an ultimatum
decide what he was going to do next or she would decide for him the couple spent the night arguing
and wound up in separate beds with nothing resolved the fight continued over the
weekend until they ultimately decided to separate temporarily while they figured
out what they wanted Jason was going to stay at the family home while his wife took their
kids to her mother's place that Monday Jason was in a work meeting when he received a text from his
wife saying she had explain the situation to their kids they were upset and she wanted
Jason to talk to them when he returned home both of the children were crying his wife had told them that mommy
had to move out because Dad was mad at her their son wanted to live with Jason but Jason's wife said that he
couldn't the boy had interpreted this to mean that Jason must have been mad at him
too Jason realized that his wife was going to quote drag the kids through hell if he left instead he bottled up
his feelings and begged her to stay she agreed but insisted that he apologized to their neighbor for the
sake of their sons who were good friends although Jason hated the idea he did it anyway as they would inevitably
continue to cross paths he would do anything for his kids even acting civil in such distressing
and emotionally crippling circumstances after this things seemingly settled down but Jason was
constantly plagued by thoughts of his wife's infidelity I worry how can I keep from
making her so unhappy that she cheats on me again he wrote on Reddit then a year after the original
incident Jason discovered that his wife had sent the neighbor lwd photos of herself
again she claimed it was an accident and that she had intended to send them to Jason although he didn't believe her he
moved on Jason concluded his Reddit post by writing that things had been quiet on
that front for about 4 months but he continued to think about it all the time this is going to sound stupid he wrote
but I feel like I have a part of my brain that can't shut off that is always thinking I used to use that to solve
programming problems and it made me very good at my job but ever since this incident the only thing it thinks about
is her and him and if I did the right thing my job performance has suffered and I feel like I haven't gotten sleep
in months I'm afraid that after this much time and fact that I begged her back that to say that I want a divorce
now would only make her more vindictive towards my children and I I just feel like I have to put myself
so deep in a hole that I can never get back out I haven't really talk to anyone about this I tried talking to one friend
about it but his advice was to put my trust in God that was not much Solace for me as I
am an atheist so I have no no clue what to do with my feelings or how to move on from
[Music] this Jason in Hell's post to the relationship advice subreddit received over 200 comments from users all around
the world offering their input and support the top comment had upwards of 500 up votes signifying that a large
number of users had rated it positively written by someone with the username lude it advised the Jason in hell not to
navigate the situation alone and to seek legal counsel as soon as possible you won't be doing your
children any favors by remaining in a marriage that is now founded on lies infidelity and outright bullying the
user wrote other commenters agreed that Jason in hell should obtain a lawyer and
divorce his wife many were outraged at his willingness to Plate her by apologizing
to the man she had an affair with and begging her to stay smack the [ __ ] out of that man one
user demanded others were angry that Jason's wife was blackmailing him by threatening
to use his suicide attempt 15 years prior to get full custody of their children one user called her tactics
quote incredibly low and [ __ ] up advice was also given on how Jason should navigate the legal system should
he wind up having to fight for the custody of his children the user 2012 Mustang GT
wrote this dude's kids will someday understand the sacrifices he is making in his own life to keep them ignorantly
happy user pork belly diet wrote to Jason please know your worth and best of luck to you and your children
almost a week after his initial post Jason in Hull reappeared on the subreddit in a brief update titled I'm
taking your advice Jason revealed that his wife didn't want to attempt to fix their relationship and refused to
undergo counseling he wrote I am going to get myself and my kids out I meet with an attorney next
week thank you everyone for helping me see how far I had my head up my ass Jason's update received only 20
comments All of which were overwhelmingly positive users reassured him that he was
doing the right thing mure leud who had encouraged Jason to seek legal counsel in the initial
post wrote good for you and good luck remember that life on the other side of all this will be far better for both
yourself and your children and let that hope keep you going when things get [Music]
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you support case File to continue to deliver quality content Jason and Brandy Wally were
engaged for 2 years before tying the nod in 2009 their first child a son named Tyler was
born that same year then in 2013 the couple welcomed their second child a daughter they named
Charlie both the Jason and Brandy agreed that they would always put their children first Above All Else including
their marriage the family of four lived in the small Midwestern town of Darlington
Indiana with a population of less than a thousand residents most knew the Wallies
and considered them good people Wednesday November 16 2016 was a typical day for the
family Jason went to his job as a software engineer while Brandy took 7-year-old Tyler and 3-year-old Charlie
to spend their day with their grandmother that evening they all attended one of Charlie's dance
performances before returning home for dinner Brandy then ducked out to Walmart to buy
some pipe cleaners for a project Tyler was working on for school when she returned home she joined
Jason in playing with their children in the living room Jason then bathed and put both
Tyler and Charlie to bed before retiring for the night as it neared 5:00 a.m. Jason woke
to the sound of screaming he rushed upstairs to find his mother in-law crying hysterically in the
kitchen Brandy was sitting in the nearby living room bleeding profusely from a wound in her
neck now you can't take my children from me she told Jason minutes earlier at 4:35 a.m. a
phone call was placed to 911 the dispatcher was left speechless by what he heard and was convinced the
caller must have have been delusional and lying my County 911 where's emergency in what
town Darlington you what's going on there I just stabbed myself and I killed my two children you stabbed yourself and
killed your two children mhm okay and what's your name Randy and where they where the
children at in my daughter's room on the flooor in your daughter's room on the floor
okay and and what caused you to do this today my husband wanted to divorce and wanted to take my kid I won't let him
found my kid okay and how old are your children three 10 and three seven seven and three
mhm okay and where did you stab yourself at in the neck okay are you bleeding yeah I
everywhere okay and where are you at their living room you're in their living room
mhm okay and are are you armed now with the knife still no it's in my children's
room okay where's your husband at downstairs somewhere okay what's his condition
I don't know how talk and when you say downstairs is he in a basement or yeah okay what's his
name Jason Jason Jason warley yeah when police arrived at the warley house they found Tyler and Charlie
deceased in Charlie's bedroom Brandy Wally was sitting on a couch in the living room she was rushed
to hospital where she remained for over a week during which her neck wound was successfully
treated when police were finally able to speak to Brandy it was the first time the lifelong Darlington resident had
come to the attention of authorities she had no prior criminal history and there was no evidence that
her children were in any danger prior to November 17 to the contrary the Wally family was
widely described as happy and loving yet Brandy told investigators that after 7 years together on Wednesday
November 16 Jason had filed for divorce citing irretrievable breakdown of their marriage following bry's
infidelity a year prior he was no longer able to stay together for the sake of their
children as part of the divorce agreement he had requested custody in child support benefits with Equitable
division of the Family Assets that evening instead of buying pipe cleaners from Walmart Brandy
purchased a Kar style combat knife which she hid in her son's room once everyone was in bed she
consumed large quantities of the antihistamine benad dril in order to make herself
drowsy she then entered Tyler's bedroom and stirred him away saying they were going to have a sleepover in his little
sister's room she retrieved the combat knife and followed Tyler out once inside Charlie's bedroom Brandy
straddled her son and began stabbing him in the neck Charlie woke up to the commotion
and asked her mother what she was doing through the darkness Brandy responded nothing go back to
sleep Brandy then approached and stabbed her in the neck multiple times before inserting the knife into her own
neck leaving the knife in her daughter's room a bleeding Brandy then made her way
to the living room where she picked up the phone and called her mother to tell her what she'd done bry's mother ordered
her to call 911 Brandy did as she was told and was still speaking with the 911 dispatcher
when her mother arrived and entered Charlie's room to find the two children deceased it was her scream that woke up
Jason Wally who had been sleeping soundly in the basement Brandy told the police that she
had intended to kill herself but had somehow quote screwed that up matter of factly she explained that
she didn't want her divorcing husband to take their kids from her so she stabbed
them I just wanted to die with them she revealed I didn't want them to live without
me the outpouring of grief from the local community was immense counselors were called in to speak to devastated
students at Tyler's Elementary School while neighbors of the Wes were left in disbelief they couldn't fathom that such
a horrific crime could happen to a seemingly normal family one that often hosted G togethers and bonfires on
holidays Brandy appeared to be a doting mother she was often seen walking her two children around the neighborhood and
photos of them featured throughout her personal Facebook page on which she wrote in the end I am the only one that
can give my children a happy mother that loves life some who knew Brandy regarded her
as a great person they couldn't comprehend a sight of her that would compel her to kill her
own children an online fundraiser was launched to support Jason Wy and help pay for his children's
funeral Tyler and Charlie were laid to rest under a shared Tombstone that read rest well sweet babies dad loves
you etched next to Tyler's name was a ret an ow likee Creature from the series Pokémon
Charlie's name was accompanied by the Snowman Olaf from the Disney film Frozen despite a cleaning crew having
since been through the wle home Jason noticed his daughter's room still rap of blood unable to stay there any longer he
gathered some of his possessions and threw them into the back of a [Music] van for the murders of her two children
Brandy warley initially entered a not- guilty plea with the intention of claiming the insanity
defense however she ultimately accepted a plea deal and altered her plea to guilty to avoid facing a
trial bry's defense attorney claimed there was no definitive reason why the murders took
place as others had described Brandy was a wonderful caring mother but her lawyer
said she simply snapped he wanted to give the an explanation but conceded I can't do
that he said that Brandy had been emotional during their first few meetings But as time wore on she became
more stoic as that's the only way she can deal with it at this point her lawyer also revealed that
since the murders Brandy had been diagnosed with depression in 2018 Jason w took the
stand during bry's sentencing hearing telling the court that his children were his
life he described 7-year-old Tyler as a loving energetic first grader Who Loved Sports the type of child who could walk
into a room of strangers and walk out with 20 new friends he wanted to work on computers
one day like his dad 3-year-old Charlie was a big ball of attitude who loved getting dressed up
and wouldn't leave the house without braids or a bow in her hair Jason's divorce to Brandy had been
finalized in March 2017 and they hadn't spoken since the night of the murders in regards to his ex-wife's
guilty plea Jason said she appeared to be just as unremorseful as she did in the 911
call when asked what sentence he would like to see Brandy receive Jason responded all I want and have ever
wanted was to have her out of sight and mind so that I may move forward from this
horror after sitting quietly for 4 minutes the presiding judge sentenced Brandy Wy to a total of 120 years in
prison for the murders of Tyler and Charlie Brandy remained silent upon hearing the
outcome she was twice asked if she had anything to say but she opted not to make a
statement the judge acknowledged that people wanted an explanation as to how a loving mother could kill her own
children but told the court sometimes there is no explanation darkness is in this world
and it penetrates minds and our hearts in the week after Tyler and Charlie Wy were murdered a post was made on the
subreddit dedicated to American news commenter and YouTube personality Philip DeFranco titled a message for Phil the
author was a redditor going by the username Jason in Hill he wrote my name is Jason Wy I have watched
Phil for several years now and his words have always brought me comfort in in times of great
loss last Thursday I lost my children Tyler age s and Charlie age three in horrific
tragedy Jason didn't elaborate any further and instead went on to ride of his children's love of Phil's
work any kind words you can offer would be greatly appreciated Jason requested before encouraging Phil to hold his own
baby son close the post flew under Philip def Franco's radar but his audience took notice and
looked into Jason's Reddit profile where they came across his previous posts seeking advice about his cheating
wife Jason initially said he was staying with his wife for the sake of his children but users unanimously told him
to divorce her he expressed gratitude for the advice which he intended to follow in searching Jason Wally def
Franco's audience came across the outcome of that advice and informed the YouTuber who filmed a video offering his
support in the ensuing publicity the Jason in hell Reddit profile was deleted one day a post appeared on the
relationship advice subreddit by a user going by the name Jason in code titled an update from Jason in hell
it was Jason Wy who explained I deleted the Jason in hell account in a knee-jerk reaction to
seeing my Reddit posts in the news I guess the first question to answer is how am I doing and to that I
would say I am doing well he went on to describe the defeating bad days in which he had used
alcohol to avoid nightmares of his children's final moments the support given by friends and
family had been fundamental enabling Jason to drop the Habit before it caused too much
damage he had also received treatment in hospital for suicidal thoughts that emerged following his children's
murders Jason wrote from that I learned that you should never be ashamed of your mental
health and not seeking treatment will only make it worse not better it had hadn't been easy Jason
hadn't sought help initially which led to him losing his job and becoming a recluse he assured readers not to worry
he had since returned to work and had nearly regained his former position and salary however his in-laws were an
ongoing problem they owned the house that Jason and Brandy lived in and had changed the
locks shortly after the murders with Jason's belongings still inside he tried to negotiate the return
of his property but was accused of theft and told he had to pay to retrieve his belongings Jason had to get law
enforcement involved but bry's family continued to make his life difficult when Jason visited his
children's grave on the one-year anniversary of their murders his ex-wife's family sat in their truck and
watched him the whole time Jason wrote because of that I don't visit the grave as often as I would like
to in regards to how he felt about Bry sentencing Jason explained that is harder to answer
because no matter what the sentence nothing will bring back my beloved children do I think she should have
gotten the death penalty which Indiana has no I do not she wanted to die and after 9 years
of giving her what she wanted when she wanted it I was not going to give her another
thing do I think the life sentence will have any appreciable effect on her I don't know one thing she always stressed
for the entire time that I knew her was that she lived her life without any regrets even after I caught her cheating
on me she continued to say she had no regrets Jason in Hell's Reddit history has been archived on relationship advice
where it remains Locked In Time the posts and original comment threads can be viewed but nothing else
can be changed or added the subreddit has since reflected on the lessons learned through Jason W's
ordeal users who seek out his original posts are greeted with a message explaining that those who contributed to
discussions at the time failed to consider the reality of the situation as best as they could have
known hindsight is 2020 and encourages users to realize the potential for complications which might make any
advice difficult to follow it ends with the remark something which seems obvious to
any one of us is rarely ever obvious to someone in the weeds of the relationship
itself redditors have rallied behind Jason in the aftermath of the murders with his update post filled with
comments expressing support and sympathy despite his loss Jason expressed gratitude to the relationship
advice community and the service they provide to those in need adding no one could have foreseen the
tragedy that resulted from me filing for divorce there is one thing in particular
that continues to haunt Jason on the night of the murders Brandy suggested that he sleep in the living
room in an online post Jason lamented I just can't help but wonder that if I had slept on the couch like
she had suggested instead of an air mattress in the basement then maybe I could have saved my children or at the
very least died with them a father has one job in this world to protect his children and I fa fail to
do [Music] that in his final Reddit post to relationship advice Jason warley wrote if I can impart on you something I
have learned through all of this it is that you should always take the time to be with the ones you
love it doesn't matter if they are asking you to read the pokey little puppy for the millionth time or asking
you to play Smash Brothers even though you both know they will wipe the floor with you every every
time just do it because you never know what time will be the last time always make sure they know how much you love
them I had the fortune that the last thing my children ever heard me say was I love you good night I will see you
in the morning [Music] [Music] [Music]

Case 240: JasonInHell

*** Warning: This case involves a child victim ***

By late 2016, Jason and Brandi Worley’s marriage was crumbling. Regardless of what happened between them, they promised to always put their two children, Tyler and Charlee, first.

Meanwhile, a user going by the name of JasonInHell logged onto Reddit and clicked on a forum titled: relationship_advice.

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Brief Summary

Jason Wally's family tragedy unfolds as his wife Brandy murders their children amid marital strife and infidelity.

Key points

Jason's Infidelity Discovery. Jason discovers his wife's affair with their neighbor, leading to emotional turmoil.
The Text That Changed Everything. A shocking text reveals the depth of betrayal in Jason's marriage.
Jason's Struggle with Trust. Jason grapples with the fear of his wife cheating again.
Jason's Mental Breakdown. Jason reveals the ongoing mental strain from his wife's infidelity.
Community Support on Reddit. Jason receives overwhelming support and advice from Reddit users after sharing his story.
A Mother's Descent. Brandy Wally's tragic actions stemmed from a desire to keep her children with her.

Episode highlights

Episode quotes

I caught my wife cheating on me over a year ago.

Jason's revelation about his wife's infidelity.

4:47WatchMar 25, 2023

Tension

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