Off The Record /// Episode: 33 /// Q&A Part 1 | Forensic Files

[Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] all right little Q&A welcome to the fold welcome to the
Q&A I'm your host the captain did you weed out all the you know like the we we typically get the same batch of
questions no matter where we go so some of these are similar to what we've answered in the past okay but it's kind
of well where are we at now gotcha and you you'll you'll notice those questions as we go along so first we want to thank
everybody that submitted a question we had questions submitted To Us by Instagram and I believe Twitter mhm uh
and any question that was like a duplicate question or a question that was similar to somebody else's question
we just kind of lump them all together okay so we're not going to read the people's names also they're also handles
so it's not people's real names so it gets even Messier to read but if you submitted a question just know we thank
you we appreciate it we love you chances are you're going to hear your question and go that was me that was me I'm
telling all my friends and now that we're not going to read anybody's names if you hear a really good question you
can tell your friends that that was your question right even if it was but you're
not even on Instagram right right it's okay all right so the first question this is I thought this was an odd
question coming to podcasters but it was uh what was your first concert like Rock and Roll concert well so in
complete complete truthfulness here my actual first concert I believe would have been the oakd boys I
was very little and just kind of tagged along with my mom and dad and I actually
enjoyed it I I remember going home and then like asking my father like hey can I listen to your ID boys tapes El marra
yeah elvir or elvir um El I don't know that I remember any of the other song but like first concert that I went to
you know willingly you know old enough to buy my own ticket and go would have been there was a local show at the big
Amphitheater here in Columbus this would have been early '90s and the setup was it was all actually local bands there
was a local radio station here called The Blitz well they're they're still around I just don't listen to them
anymore but uh the Blitz had done like a local stuff album so like the best of the best local bands hard rock bands uh
techno um heavy metal all that kind of stuff and they pulled a handful of those bands that were featured on that CD and
I had that CD and I loved it and so I went to a concert and watched a bunch of Lo bunch of local bands the headliner
was Watershed which I'm captain you know this most of our listeners won't know who Watershed is but to this day you're
still a water still a huge Watershed fan one of my favorite bands of all time top
five for the colonel here yeah well maybe they should invite you out to a show I I don't know that they do shows
anymore the one guy moved to the West Coast a couple years ago to get away from me right right there was a
restraining order but they were actually popular enough that they got signed to Sony records for a while and and
couldn't really couldn't really catch on nationally but they're uh inspired heavily by Cheap Trick so that' give
people kind of a Vibe of of who they are and what they sound like there was a another local band that was signed they
sing alcohol yeah Howen Maggie yeah friends I've been friends with Andy Harrison
their guitar player for years they had a song alcohol they had a song too called
I'm a [ __ ] which was a which was a local hit it's probably based off of a I'm a
[ __ ] that's why you love me that's why you hate me too I think my first concert
was um the Dare band you know uh I was I think I went to the same was that slam circus was that the
name of the band I don't remember what they're called the Dare band oh you oh you mean the the cops the actual Cops
playing off drugs keep a kid off drugs I'm thinking of a completely different so the thing I'm thinking of was there
was like a wathon MH for to raise money for the local dare project or whatever and it they H they hired some um you
know local band but you you're talking about the actual like they look like they're police officers right and then
all their guitars were like shaped like guns and stuff I like yeah dare to keep a kid off drugs keep a kid wasn't to
give a kid some hope keep a kid off dope give a kid some hope give a kid some dope it's it's amazing that they weren't
like a huge like World Tour one of my good friends um cp1 that's what I call him I had uh two friends with it Chris
last name with a p mhm and and so I had one in um through Elementary School and High School even into college and then I
met another one so he became cp2 but cp1 went to see the Ninja Turtles concert and I remember just C being so jealous
like oh my your parents took you I don't remember that this is the this is the Ninja Turtles like their full costume
full costume playing pretending to play instruments I mean how could you play anything with those giant fingers yeah
and I yeah I just remember that I remember not only did he go to the Ninja Turtles concert but he also had the
Simpsons CD oh this is one like one your rich friend cp1 yeah and every yeah and
he wasn't he wasn't rich I mean same class but the difference was you know having four siblings and then they only
had two and then you go why does he get so much more stuff than I do uh but anytime he complained about his parents
I kept on thinking Ninja Turtle concert right you can how dare you speak ill of these people
how how dare you I don't I don't know any I didn't even know that they did concerts I remember that van ice like
ruined his career by doing the soundtrack didn't he no no no he he solidified himself as a legend for all
time by doing yo ninja rap I think was that called n Go Ninja Go nin go go see everybody knows that and if you don't
know that you better ask somebody somebody's paying $1.99 to download that right now on iTunes all right here's
another question what's the best film I trust they these get more True Crime as we go but what is the best film that you
have seen in the last few years and I don't think this is technically True Crime it's just film oh
that's that's rough um I've seen a l i me I really liked the Halloween movie and we talked about that here but I
think probably the best movie If I had a really pick one that I've seen in the last few years that's kind of a it's
kind of a vague question here um what was that three Billboards outside of I can't remember the title of it I haven't
watched that yet so don't no spoilers dude I loved that movie I thought it was great Woody Harrelson's in it who I'm is
the best he's just a fantastic uh actor and then we had the and I'm going to get
crucified for this it's the lady from Fargo she was in Fargo she's a big time actress she's I don't know her name
though she won a bunch of awards for this yeah three Billboards outside of yeah uh I don't know where I don't remember
where it was but must been a great movie here's what I will say for those of you
out there looking for a movie to watch that you like True Crime this is pretty close to True Crime I mean it's a
fictitious movie but it is like her daughter is I I don't remember if she's missing or murdered but there's an
investigation that's going on were you drunk when you watched this because you don't know much about it well I'm
getting thrown this question I probably watched this movie like six months ago okay it's it's not like I watched it
last night so you've been drunk since then yeah why you can't remember I I eping was it three three Billboards
outside of eping I'm not looking um I don't yeah three Billboards that's how I know it so yeah mine is and
I've talked about this a lot um David Foster Wallace's movie the end of tour it was um lifechanging for me then I
told a bunch of people watch it and then everybody watch it and said ah it's pretty good and I was like glad that the
life-changing movie for me was just pretty good for you but I think it all the perspective of where you're coming
from but Jesse Eisenberg and Jason seagull Jason seagull is amazing uh Jason give me a call put me in one of
your movies I could play like you know your handsome brother or something I should have just tapped on
my iPad right at the start of this question three Billboards outside of ebbing Missouri and it's Francis
mcdorman is the mother who rents three Billboards to call attention to her daughter's unsolved murder so murder
mystery watch it all right here's another question number three why do you steer towards the more widely and
well-known cases as opposed to doing more local cases now look I think it's debatable
that we do that right that's why I was like H it's all depends on what you pay attention to I mean yes we've done Scott
Peterson Michael Peterson when when you hear cases like that or you know we I think we plan on covering the Chris
Watts case eventually these are Big cases that are in the media Spotlight and so we'll get
tons of requests so right you know very thankful to have a bunch of listeners so
hey that's what you guys want to hear us talk about that's what we'll try to talk
about uh to fill in the gaps of that when we're picking the cases they normally 90 some per the cases that
we're picking are cases that are not covered nationally yeah so the way that I kind of describe this to my friends or
people that ask me similar question like how do you decide what cases you pick well I kind of describe it like this
like I think 75% of the cases we choose are driven by listener request and 25% are kind of ones that you and I might
dig up on our own but we really try to focus and let the listeners have a big time say so in what cases we cover and
like the captain just said the well-known cases do get more we do receive more requests for them because
they're they're they're just better known I mean but well and the other problem with this question um it's not a
bad question but one of the other issues is what what a wellknown case to you is
might not be a well-known case to somebody else I mean there's a lot of people that I know that will just pop in
and listen to a show from time to time on on just for our show and so they're popping in and they might you
know Brandon Lawson is a pretty popular case now pretty you know talked about uh
tons of YouTube videos about tons of podcasts where they talk about the Brandon Lawson's case you know when we
cover that case it wasn't a huge case it wasn't super popular so I think um we covered Tony Muny
nobody I mean pardon me but outside of Tony nobody still covered it I outside of Tony's family I don't know that
anybody has discussed his murder in the last 20 years and maybe we're just being
defensive dicks okay question number four y if you had a chance to know what actually
happened now there was this question was posed by multiple people in multiple ways so I put them all together okay if
you had a chance to know what happened actually happened and one missing person case or unsolved case what case would
that be I would have to go zodiac um you know so you could pick really any of the murders in that string
of murders but you would you would know who did it um that for me I look and I I
kind of almost dislike this type of question because I think it's an interesting discussion we ask for all
these questions no no no now we're judging you on your questions well they're judging us on the answers um I
dislike this kind of question for this reason it's really hard for me to pick I mean and that's that's what makes this a
good question though yeah but right and we've had this question before but what makes it such a great question is if you
ask us next week the answer is probably going to change if you ask me 10 minutes
from now it's going to I I mean I just now sitting here going west Memphis 3 you know it's Jack the Ripper uh Amy
mahalic yeah Amy mahalic lately I've been reding into that cas yogurt shop and and that one kind
of I'd say right now just for what I've been diving into like when we get a break you know and and maybe I'm all
caught up on the research for next week's show m i I've been diving into some interesting theories on the Amy
mahalic case like she had an older brother correct yeah Jason yeah so I've been I got a couple people that sent me
some really interesting theories on on some people that were connected to the brother mhm and and that's an angle that
I've never really heard before or thought about before CU it really kind of went straight to teachers and
administrators and things like that so to be diving into a whole different aspect has been pretty interesting so
I'd say right now if I could know what happened in the Amy mahalic case uh that would be awesome but you know there's
like three that always pop to to my mind West Memphis 3 adnot Sayed um and and then lately the Stephen Avery case I'd
really like to know what exactly what happened and a lot of people go well you know especially like Adon sad supporters
would go well he's innocent well I'm not saying he's not I'm just saying I want to there's things that don't make sense
in that case whether he's innocent or guilty they don't make sense to me so I want to know why they make sense you
know the rig of mortise always drives me nuts there and then also the the tals of
um the wide fishy tales of Jay always is a mystery to me and the other one that gets
me is Donnie Donnie's Alibi doesn't still doesn't make any sense to me I'd like to know I'd like to know
about that alibi and think about this if you got the details of it what if his story actually was the
truth like this whale of a story of how he worked at a different location that day like if you could find out those
details later cuz sometimes that's what happens sometimes things don't line up somebody looks very suspicious somebody
looks like they're the number one suspect and then out of nowhere DNA proves that they're not the guy right
and then it kind of blows your mind because there's one or two points that just didn't add up and then all of a
sudden they do and you realiz the person was telling the truth okay Long Island serial killer would be another see how
difficult this question is we just 20 minutes later you know you know what would save us the most time personally
though is if West Memphis 3 was solved because that's the one that you and I keep bumping our heads we keep we it's
what maybe once a month we end up in an hourlong discussion about West Memphis 3
yeah it would save us a lot of time going forward I hate to sound selfish here but I'd have to find another hobby
all right number five uh how does Nick come up with the so clever and so funny Captain
intros oh uh well the captain does write some of those um I write some of them and I do find a lot of them other places
like I might hear somebody say something similar or if you see like something funny on a beer sign at a bar um those
work well yeah sometimes we have buddies that send them my buddy Morgan sometimes
sends one or My Buddy Joe sends one I'm sure some of your buddies send you some hey yeah and so it's not really you know
sometimes I do come up with a clever one or the captain comes up with a clever one himself but I did have somebody
asked me a question the other day sent me an email and they wanted to know do you know what the intro is going to be
before I say it and I told him I said most of the time not because I'm kind of showing up with it already scripted out
uh but there are occasions where you write the intro so obviously you know it then but uh the neat thing is sometimes
that I just kind of throw one out there and then you have to kind of react to it
yeah and sometimes there sometimes I'm reacting by going that that one's not even good U and then we just rewrite one
on the spot um so a lot of those come Seinfeld references Larry David references and also I think we're both
fans of comedians so you'll hear like little jokes on The Tonight Show or Saturday Night Live and we just try to
um the you know some of them are look they're stolen jokes yeah Steve Martin yeah we're not comedians here we stole a
lot of Steve Martin a lot of Steve stole his whole damn career yeah well we made
nothing compared to what he's made I'm working on playing some banjo so no I mean so that's as a t tip of our cap to
that and it is difficult though because we've done like 200 you know because we didn't do Captain intros right off the
get you know right when we we first started but we've probably done 250 of them yeah and and what's nice though is
uh you know we've had people we've had comedians like christalia listen to the show uh Michael lenoce Christal Leia's
opener Kristen Carney which is a very funny um host of the mentally ill or mentally chill podcast and she got into
our show because of the the captain intros cuz there were so many Seinfeld references and she's like big fan
Seinfeld so um yeah so that's my favorite one still is the middleweight thumb wrestling champion of
the world right which was a long time ago like the first five episodes probably right so I'm hoping that I can
recycle it and use it again that it's almost so old yeah maybe maybe next week maybe this week okay how do you guys um
how do you guys stay so grounded with all the female attention I think with don't know that
there's that much female I think I think what they're talking about is um when we
post a picture or something on social media sometimes the comment threads become kind of silly as far as like
you're so handsome or I think that's what they're most of those are coming from men hopefully we can only hope uh I mean
I was told I look like a big dork already once today so did I tell you that no a different friend oh that's ni
so you got get that's how we stay grounded there's people to kick us well we do read the comments but I think if
you let the you know with the comments it's a slippery slope I mean if you let the
people telling you that you're hot and your voice is sexy or whatever it is if you let that go to your head then you're
going to let the negative comments go to your heart so I think you have to you know it's a fine line it is a nice
pickme up though after read about some depressing cases yeah and I think a lot of it's in good fun I mean we've met a
lot of married women that say oh you're my celebrity crush and but their their husband's right there taking the picture
and he's more handsome than we are yeah he's way better looking and he's in better shape taller broad shoulders he
just doesn't want to talk so much about Drew Grime CU you know he he has a life um all right
so how do you feel this is question number seven how do you feel uh I guess this is
directed towards me how do I feel when I say something hilarious and Nick just keeps going um it's probably a good
thing we got to keep the story rolling uh Nick's not a good listener so it's just I mean I've been
friends with him for years he's not a good listener which is fine makes him a good
talker and actually I probably get mad when he laughs or when he you know has to stop the show
cuz then it causes more time of recording and editing so I had someone recently tell me that
I'm being rude to you by not um that you'll throw something out there and I and then I just go back into the story
yeah but but which is not my intention but we're also big fans of Comedians and like we were talking um about before
like if I if I'm at home watching a standup special I'm not like cracking up laughing I'm not like screaming and
cheering I'm not a psychopath I'm just enjoying it I'm smiling does that make a sense so let's
no because you just just it inadvertently talk [ __ ] about me because I if I watch it stand up at home that's
how I kind of Judge it if if I'm if I'm laughing out loud uh watching a stand up
it's it's a hit for me if I can't if I get to 15 minutes in and I'm not laughing out loud I shut it off yeah
mine's more in my face I I'll feel my face get getting tired from just smiling so Joe Lopez he used to um he used to
make some of the he was he is one of my favorite stand-up comedians and George Lopez sorry I called him Joe he's one of
my favorite I don't even know his damn name George Lopez some of his standups have you want to talk about psychopath
Me Not only am I laughing out loud he's made me cry a few times sitting at home uh watching his his uh standup why are
you crying one of my favorites of all time you know what's so crazy for me with the whole comedy thing
is you go watch somebody like christalia time of your life he is a master he's fantastic
he contorts his body in such a way he has kind of a Swagger on stage it's super entertaining
hilarious now look this is not me talking [ __ ] his his standup special good too mhm but my face hurt 10 times
more live and comedy's alive I about peed myself when we saw Christ Leo live uh he he's Fant and you
know what Jeffrey Ross does that something Jeffrey Ross does that too where like live mind blowing and then
like you if you watch a stand up on TV Great still good stuff like chrisal Leo but not not the experience like I think
because those guys especially Chris their whole that's their level they they are the kings of being on a stage in a
dark room right you know where you get somebody like George Lopez Jerry Seinfeld they are the kings of being in
a in a big Auditorium right you know that's their kind of thing I think crystalia I think uh Jeff Ross I think
those guys if they had more familiarity with that could be just as good well and
like I saw Tom sagora live and it was it was good laughed but you put you put on
a Tom sagora comedy special Netflix special I I lose my [ __ ] uhhuh for whatever reason like gets to my brain
better if I'm watching him on TV as opposed to live and he's telling the same jokes so I I I don't know what that
is I I wonder what that is there is no great answer for why I don't react to some of the things you say but I will
say this sometimes they're just not funny no but the other thing though there is there is some thought that goes
into it on my part because of because there are times where you say something funny and then I will react to that and
then afterwards like for that initial Split Second before I can get back into the story I'm going okay well it was
funny when he said it but I I took it and dragged it out longer than it needed to be you know what I mean like
sometimes it just you got to quit while they're still laughing yeah one yeah but
I also kind of view it because I'm such a huge Steve Martin fan I kind of view it on he would he talked about watching
this comedian live right right and that when you watch this comedian live that every time there's a a punchline the
comedian would smack his belly so the little smack of his belly was letting the audience know hey this is the time
you need to laugh right and so what's kind of nice about the on liners when they just pop in and you keep going is
it almost feels a little unexpected M so you know that's why I'll hear a lot about people saying oh I spit out my
drink or whatever yeah because you didn't know it was coming right cuz Nick wasn't telling a joke and I told you the
punchline it came out of left field but that's also kind of where my brain works
but I the thing I love about the on liners is when people say I was thinking this and then you said it and that is
why a lot of times I won't bite my tongue cuz I know somebody else out there is thinking that M um so anyways
thanks for that question all right number eight if you guys could become a crime fighting let me start
again if you guys could become a crime fighting Duo what would your superpowers be well first of
all uh we'd be called The Ambiguously Gay Duo that would be our crime fighting name mhm I think that might be taken
already I love that that SK that Gary yeah the video short or whatever you was it um what was the other guy's name come
back with my show I don't remember the the guys but um one of them's scary I know that that's a difficult question
cuz in comic books what I always thought was the coolest um superpower would be to shape shift be it
size or um disguise uhhuh you know or what you look like I always thought that was
the coolest like you know gi. Joe you have Zartan who can take on the appearance of another person and you
have that uh from Mystique in X-Men as well and then you have somebody like Ant-Man who can change his physical size
yeah there's a there was a guy in the old Comics I believe his name was Adam like
aom I believe and he could increase his size and decrease his size like he could
be as large as he wanted and as small as he wanted I always thought that was the
needest but if you're talking like crime fighting Duo then you feel like like a Batman or a Sherlock Holmes would be
better suited for crime fighting Duo because they're those guys don't have any superhero Powers but they're the
ultimate detective no they're not because my power would be to see in uh in the past present and future I'd be
able to see all times and be able to go at any point any location at any time I wanted to maybe it's just viewing but if
I had that power there would be no cold cases my friend mhm but that but see I don't know did they say crime solving
crime or crime fighting or crime stopping well they said crime fighting Duo so so if you could go anywhere at
any time you could technically stop the crime from ever happening the crime too you could and if you had that ability
think about this you could go back once to see what happened when how it went down and then later go back again to
prevent everything yeah yeah you that would be the best then Sherlock Holmes and Batman would not be needed at that
point that would suck so you have trumped me I will go back to controlling how large I am or small I am well yeah I
need a partner but you could like fit in my pocket if I was like Mystique I could
what right I could also change going let us into the dance club that you could get like 8 foot tall be like listen to
the dance club well let's say like the ously Gay Duo detective we need to dance before we go solve some crimes
so you would know with your powers that Joseph D'Angelo would be the original nightstalker the Golden State killer
right I knew that before a lot of people so think about this setup once you've already figured out who it is now you I
I shrink myself go into your pocket you take us back to before the first murder takes place or the first rape whatever
before his first crime for burglary when he walks into the room let's start at the Breakin first yes when he walks into
the first house yes now I'm sitting there on the couch but I look exactly like Joseph
D'Angelo just to mind [ __ ] the guy so he comes in he's like that's me sitting on
the couch and then or is it or is it yeah think about that for a minute and then we then we remove him together
from the home it's just a version of him sitting on the couch jerking off we take
him to the couch frantically we take him to the garage murder him there put him in the trunk of our car drive him out in
the middle of nowhere and bury him and then original nightstalker never happened right then we move on yeah and
then there'd be a different original nightstalker yeah how does that work well but hopefully it's just a guy
looking into Windows Oh you mean they'd give they'd give somebody else the name yeah gotcha but hopefully we'd solve
that one too so we would be busy people you think we're busy now yeah you think we're busy now people and then we'd
report about it on the show and then it was crazy Nick got really small crawled up in the dude's ass and then got really
big and the guy split in half and he died you could report on all the crimes that we've stopped now but they would
have no proof of such because they never happened mhm I just like like to see the guy's
face every time guy or girl's face when I go yes we're from the future right M and he looks at me like I'm nuts and
you're like in the palm of my hand cuz you're small at this point and then you're like yeah we're from the future
and then he's like okay it's time to fight and then you become 20 feet tall and take on his appearance yeah and you
look just like him even though why wouldn't you take on like a bigger guy's take on anybody's
appearance but I think just just to confuse them for a second when you're small you look like Kevin Hart right and
then when you're big you look like The Rock The Rock yeah that would be smart that would be a funny movie somebody's
going to take that and make that a movie all right let's get back to the notes all
right uh number nine do you ever get questions or responses from the victim's families after we cover one of their
cases and we've answered this before I mean we uh received several emails Thanking
us for doing something correcting something if it was wrong um I don't think they ever do it to be snarky I
think it's normally uh you reported this and I think they know that we really interested in the truth and we're
interested in what happened in the case M so I think when they correct something
that we did it's it's normally for us to know more information about the case yeah we we've had several people reach
out to us after the after our coverage sometimes before uh asking us to cover their case which is great um what's
what's weird though and this is something that I think I've talked about before is I never would have guessed
this until knowing what we know now but some of these cases the family members or people close to the victim they
they know less than what was reported in in the old newspapers sometimes right and and what I mean that's weird about
that is I always just kind of assume that most of the time that the family is up to speed that they've almost been
working with the detectives and with the inspectors and that's not always the case and and in a in a very small
percentage of it they're less informed than than the general news is yeah some times we're getting messages saying how
much they learn about the case mhm which is interesting and then from time to time you know having a victim's let's
say husband there was one that sticks out a victim's husband that he I mean he just has become an expert on this case
and I think that's simply because he wants it solved um uh probably the most interesting one
and I I I think I can talk about this I think I've mentioned it before is when we cover the Tera grinstead case um
right and then getting a message from bod Dukes I can't the Duke and the Dukes right it's
Ryan Duke and Bo Dukes I think so yeah but yeah get an email basically you know listen to our podcast
and he is the one that you know him and his girlfriend came forward uh uh and he
confessed to the gbi which got them to get Ryan locked up and then Ryan's going to be on trial obviously for the murder
of Tera grinstead and a lot of people followed up and vanished and you never really got a
chance to hear Bo talk but for whatever reason he listened to our show and said I think this guy wants to know the truth
and uh he sent me a message saying I'd be willing to talk to you we got on the phone I mean this is something obviously
his lawyers didn't advise him of doing his lawyers would probably kill him um and manto man he said I can you not
record this I said absolutely not which I think I actually have the legal right that I could um record it I don't have
to give him any knowledge that I recorded it um but I didn't manto man I was like no you you you're willing to
talk to me I want to know what happened we spent about an hour and a half on the
phone um I called him a piece of [ __ ] about 20 times on moments where the story L
itself for him to be a piece of [ __ ] and every time he agreed so it was you know
I'm not saying anything new um and found it was so interesting to hear his version of the story because one a lot
of things just become way clear things that didn't make sense before start becoming a lot clearer and then a lot of
these things that people were little points of evidence that people were looking into years probably didn't have
anything to do with the case um but it was a fascinating conversation and and in that
moment I think when he text me like here's my number call me I just thought like this isn't real like this is this
isn't happening like I'm going to get all these answers after after we just recorded two episodes on this case so it
was it was probably the most fascinating um encounter with somebody involved in a case I was talking with
somebody um couple family members last week of a case that I want to cover in the future
but there's not a lot of information out there this kind of goes back to the question we were talking about earlier
if we lean towards more well-known cases this case case is not welln at all it's
not even well known in the area that it took place and it's a case that's always
intrigued me and I've always wanted to cover it but there's not much info out there there's not much of a story let's
say it would literally be 15 minute 20 minute episode right so I decided to reach out to some of the family members
and talk to them and see what we could figure out if if we could add more to this story and what was weird was I was
taking old information that was in the newspapers at the time and stuff that was later released on the internet and I
based my questions that I had prepped for them off of all of that information and the interesting thing
was depending on which family member I spoke to they had a completely different answer or a completely different account
of what they thought was going on at the time right now mind you in their defense
this case is probably um I don't remember the exact year right off off hand but 25 years old let's say yeah so
of course you know memories fade and memories change they even change after all these years but it was interesting
to hear completely different answers from people that I know that had nothing to do with what happened to their loved
one these are innocent family members these are people that have been hurting for a very long time and I don't know if
they're emotions have filled in some of the gaps some of the blanks for them throughout the years or if their
suspicions have well and that's just I think happens with time with any family in almost any event I mean this is going
to sound ludicrous but there's a story that I I remember going over to my my mother's mother's house when I was a
child and she was watching me for some reason and there was no other kids there and family of lot of grandkids and a
simple story of she was making me hot dogs they didn't have buns and so she's like well I'll just
take the Hot Dogs cut them up and you can dip them in ketchup I go well I don't like ketchup well how about
mustard well I don't like mustard either you eat your hot dog's plane yes I don't know what I like and
she said well do you want to find out and I said yes and so she took ketchup and put it in a pile and mustard in a
pile and then I went through and dipped the hot dogs to taste each one like relish and
everything now when I tell my my mother this story she thinks it's completely false and made up and it tells me I'm
crazy every time that you've just made up this it's an innocent story right there's nothing I sit around coming up
with these right and that's that's my argument is it's I don't I'm not talking about like uh a discipline time like oh
my grandma spanked me with a belt or whatever it's so simple and yet detailed that it has to be true right why would I
make that up right it's ridiculous but it's just to show you that that's that's kind of how history works you know
especially family history or I mean there's been plenty of times that we've talked about being in a band back in the
day and there's probably certain events that you remember way different than I do yeah yeah and it what's always fun
too is when you're hanging out with somebody that you know real well and have known for a long time and they tell
you a story of something that that happened when when all of you were there and present yeah and you're
like yeah you sure I don't remember any of that like I don't remember any of that like that day didn't exist in my
memory bank does not even exist to the point where you're like questioning was there somebody are you confusing me with
one of your other friends right no no no you were there you were and then somebody else tells you you were there
that's that's kind of scary all right so we got we got a lot more questions so we'll get to that next week after this
quick after this really long beer break we're going to take a beer break for a week about a about a week beer break
[Music] [Applause]

Off The Record /// Episode: 33 /// Q&A Part 1

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Brief Summary

Hosts answer listener questions on concerts, films, and case selection criteria.

Key points

First Concert Memories. The hosts share their first concert experiences, revealing surprising details and nostalgia.
Choosing Cases to Cover. The hosts discuss how they select cases for their podcast, balancing listener requests and personal interests.
The Zodiac Case. A listener question prompts a discussion about which unsolved case the hosts would want to know the truth about.
The Ambiguously Gay Duo. A humorous take on their imagined crime-fighting duo name.
Fascinating Encounter. A surprising conversation with a key figure in a murder case.

Episode highlights

Episode quotes

How dare you speak ill of these people?

Expressing jealousy over a friend's concert experience.

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