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now Nicole Kissinger Chris's mistress only confirmed to police what they already suspected that Chris Watts was a
liar a cheater and likely disposed of his family to get rid of the inconvenience of being a husband and
father Chris agreed to take a polygraph test the results of the exam stated deception indicated Chris Watts was
lying the detectives in the room decided to go For Broke they told Chris that he
failed they knew he was lying and it was time to come clean then they pulled out
a photo of his family this is when Chris confessed but not to murder he told investigators that he was being
untruthful and he hurt shenan emotionally mhm he told them he was having an affair for five or six weeks
he told them he never felt about anyone the way he felt about quote her he didn't want to tell the cops his lover's
name right he wanted to keep her name out of it of course the cops had already talked to Nicole at length Chris went on
to say that his and shanann's life was totally focused on the kids and he didn't feel as though he could be
himself self or the person that he really was or who his wife needed him to be because he walked on eggshells around
her the investigators kept pushing Chris and they kept hoping that somewhere he has a conscience well they keep telling
him hey dummy you you failed the test right MH we we asked you three questions and those three questions Chris did we
ask you about an affair did we ask you about your girlfriend no so you failed the test and
for whatever reason Chris is like trying to get them to convince well it was because I was holding that back mhm that
that's why I I didn't pass the test but trust me yes did I hurt her emotionally yes but I did not I did not hurt her
physically but he also states that at some point maybe that his wife that he told his wife about the affair and that
that's why she ran off or some crazy nonsense like that well when he doesn't cave what the interrogators do they try
a new tactic and one of them asked Chris whether maybe shenan had quote done something to the girls right one of the
detectives even tells Chris that he worked a case where the mother smothered her two kids because she didn't want her
husband to be able to take them away from her mhm and after first denying it it seems likely that this
concept gives Chris an idea because Chris asked to take a break and to talk to his father who was waiting outside
now his father Ronnie comes in and the detectives remind Chris that whatever they say will be recorded and then they
leave and Chris says to his dad in a quiet Broken Voice that he doesn't want to protect shenan he tells Ronnie that
after he left their conversation about separating and went downstairs he he came back up to the master bedroom for
something and saw on the baby monitor that Bella was SP played out on her bed the monitor flipped to Cece's room and
Chris says he saw shenan sitting on top of CeCe strangling her he ran into the room and attacked shenan and quote did
the same thing to her he says it was over fast he had a lot of rage and shanan wasn't able to fight back right
he guessed that shanan must have just lost it he put Shan's body back on the master bed and covered her up because he
said he couldn't look at her and he felt horrible for what he did then he said he
looked at his kids and saw what she did now Ronnie is a gast at this news obviously he says my godson and puts his
hand on Chris's arm right Chris says he could tell the girls were dead because they were both blue he did not attempt
CPR he did not call 911 instead he put the bodies behind the driver's seat this is in the second row of his truck and
disposed of them so Chris puts the blame on shanan for killing the girls he says
quote emotionally he must have drove her to do something stupid he claims that she hadn't had a temper and would fly
off the handle he implies that she was unstable now we know captain that the police already knew where the bodies
were in fact they were on site when one of them received a call that Chris confessed mhm of course this is at the
site that we already discussed site number 319 where Chris went on August 13th what is incredible is how little
time he actually had there and how risky his dumping of the bodies was we know that he arrived on site at 6:53 a.m.
other employees reported arriving before 7:30 Chris had been texting them and calling them starting at 6:29 a.m. to
find out what time they would arrive it was broad daylight this gives Chris maybe 30 minutes to hide three corpses
so how did he do it the answer is very quickly and very sloppy now the two 400 barrel tanks on the site contained crude
oil this is a toxic chemical that exudes strong fumes Chris was an operator and was intimately familiar with these
storage tanks and how they worked the two tanks were next to each other and accessible from the top by climbing a
narrow metal staircase up the side of the tanks each tank had one 8 inch wide Thief hatch that's what they called them
on top and it was into these two tanks that Chris dumped the bodies of his baby girls he shoved three-year-old CCE still
wearing her pink nighty and pullup diaper into the hatch of one of the tanks leaving a clump of hair on the
hatch he shoved four-year-old Bella and her unicorn night gown into the other Bella's body had scratches on it from
the hatch Chris said he could tell how much oil was in the tanks by the sound of the splashes The girls bodies made
when investigators asked whether there was any way that the girls were still alive when they hit the oil he said no
no no no God no mhm now Chris knew he couldn't fit Shan's body into this little opening on the tank right so he
dug a hole in the ground near the tanks and he shoved his dead wife's body into a fetal position into about 27 in deep
into a hole and covered her up with just 3 in of dirt meanwhile investigators at the site used
a drone to do a fly over to get the lay of the land and the drone camera showed them what appeared to be a sheet in the
brush and a freshly Disturbed patch of dirt there they found a broken rake two black trash bags and the fitted sheet
matching the missing one from the Watts bedroom right the sheet had clearly been
used to drag a body as it was covered with dirty drag marks and then dumped into the brush in haste coroners were
called in and sure enough shanan was Unearthed from the shallow grave we know that law enforcement knew the site the
location and then at some point they actually hold up a picture of the location of cuz they say hey we've been
there earlier MH we here's some Drone footage and by the way here's a overview where is your wife's body right and he
and he points them out to them but you have to know that the law enforcement that the the agent that said hey I once
worked a case where the the mother smothered the children and then that's the excuse he's using mhm you you know
that the agents going this is just [ __ ] yeah well and I mean he's placed under arrest for the murder of
his wife on that night right and this is after what we should refer to as his partial confession right and there is
probably absolutely no doubt in any of the investigators Minds at this point that Chris Watts was 100% guilty of
killing his entire family after all his behavior was suspicious from the beginning he a a trail of evidence and
he lied to police all right so when does confession part two take place well that's what's interesting here because
this is not a who done it you know we all know that Chris Watts seemingly a loving father and adoring husband was
actually a murderer right the question in this case is how much of a monster is he did he how and why yeah did he just
snap and kill shenan in retaliation for her murders of the girls as he has at times continued to claim or did he have
some kind of mental break or as many believe and as he ultimately plad guilty to did he actually kill not only his
pregnant wife and fetus but both his daughters as well and if so did he plan the whole event how much of his life was
a lie and why would he do the unthinkable even if shenan drove him into a rage why did he kill his little
girls as well so first of all the question about whether Chris or shenan killed the girls Chris claims that his
wife lost it killed the daughters after the separation discussion right but investigators are not going to buy this
for one thing Bella and CeCe were not strangled as he stated that he saw on the monitor right in Chris's story
shenan strangles them in a rage but the autopsy reports in the death of both girls is very clear they died of
expiation due to smothering there were no finger or hand marks around the girl's necks whatsoever Bella had
struggled violently while she was being smothered she bit through her tongue CeCe had no marks on her at all so
according to well she bit through her tongue but she also didn't she have separation of from her gums to her mouth
yeah oh yeah on the soft tissue inside the face there yeah um shenan could not have
strangled either of them you know Chris is lying about this and that's clear from the autopsy what is also totally
and completely out of character for shenan to have laid a finger on her girls you know further most women who
kill their children have warning signs such as depression anxiety and the list goes on and on right shenan
had none of these Chris's story was a tale he invented an attempt to save his own skin he ended up pleading guilty to
all three murders as well as unlawful termination of a pregnancy in a plea deal that saved him from the death
penalty to this day his mother still alleges that shanan was the baby killer so now to our second question as to
whether Chris Watts just snapped and killed his entire family in a rage a blackout or a break with reality or did
he plan to murder his family right we may likely never know the answer to this for sure unless he speaks up at some
point uh he has refused to address any of this but most people seem to agree that yes the slaughter of the Watts
family was premeditated this includes the district attorney who made the plea deal with Chris whereby he plad guilty
to all three murders he said that the evidence does not point to a crime of passion driven by blind rage so what
points to premeditation First on that Friday before the murders the 10th Chris took
the day off so he could care for the girls while shanan headed to Arizona while he was meeting a co-worker
Troy McCoy in a parking lot to exchange an Amazon fire stick McCoy received a call from a colleague named Cody Roberts
indicating that there was a possible slow leak at the 319 site and asking if someone could head out there on Monday
Chris overheard McCoy's conversation with Roberts and he volunteered quickly that he could go out there and take care
of it he knew it was a oneperson job and that the other employees would not be present further he then texts Cody
Roberts on Sunday August 12th at 5:06 p.m. this is during a birthday party where he was at with his girls this is
to confirm that he would be heading out to the site on Monday morning and then he would report back he said no reason
for the both of them to go Roberts later remarked that it was unheard of for Chris to make contact on
a weekend Chris also later told Nicole in a 2-hour phone call on the night of the 12th during which shanan was trying
to call him from the airport that he would not be into the office in the morning as usual this would avoid him
having to go into the office first which is his usual Mo and would give him time
alone at the very remote site another thing Nicole Kissinger stated that on the rare occasions that the two went out
in public Chris always paid with cash or anad Darko gift cards but on that Saturday night August 11th when Chris
told shanan he was at the Rockies game and he and Nicole actually went to the lazy dog he casually charged dinner for
two on shanann's joint credit card but if he's planning to murder her and this is premeditated murder he knows he's not
going to have to answer for these charges or won't care that he did this well he is also fine with racking up
almost a half a million dollars in debt and file bankruptcy the other thing too and this is more speculation you know I
know it's all speculation but this seems a little more questionable there's something that's been referred to as the
creepy doll photo this is quite the weird one but on August 9th Chris texted his wife a photo of a 3ot Long human
looking doll lying on the sofa in the house covered with what looks like a white sheet I guess it's actually a a
twister mat Chris said that the girls did it when they were playing but could this have been some kind of sick you
know joke that only Chris would understand or some kind of weird warning um this is this image is one of the last
to appear on shanann's Facebook page well and she actually replies I don't know what to think about
this and then it's the the crying laughing Emoji mhm so that's very strange the final thing that points to premeditation
is the manner of the killings you know remember the da said that Chris had not killed in Rage as he claimed this is
because the evidence shows that the two girls were smothered separately one at a
time which takes patience and perseverance experts say it takes 3 to four minutes to kill someone in this
manner and Chris as we know made sure that they were really dead smothering the girls until they were blue he wasn't
rushing around bashing people over the head or stabbing them the the girls had no marks on their bodies you know
practically anywhere and as for shenan she had no bruises marks or wounds on her body the characteristic of a rage
attack right she was systematically and deliberately strangled to death with the
only marks left behind being finger marks on her throat throat we don't know where shenan was killed the the sofa in
the loft or in the bedroom but I believe it was upstairs as the motion detectors
in the home show no Motion in the house until 4:23 a.m. when we know Chris was waking up to make his Thrive shake and
packing his lunch for the day we don't know exactly how she was killed you know was she attacked from behind or while
she slept but remember there were no defensive wounds right we don't even know for sure the order of the killings
no where the girls killed before shenan arrived home I I I think that this might
be unlikely Captain as there's a chance that shanan may have noticed that they were dead but per perhaps I mean I don't
it's tough to it's tough to figure out what was going in that home I I was actually speculating that he did it he
actually killed his daughters first and maybe and then waited for her kept them in their rooms or or tucked
away somewhere yeah because she gets home around two mhm so you're talking about it's only a couple hours few hours
before he leaves to put them in their resting spots you know what's the what's weird here too amongst all this other
chaos um there were some of his friends that came forward to state that it may have been a rage because
they felt that Chris was smart and that if he planned the whole thing he likely would have never got caught yeah but
just because you wear glasses doesn't make you smart I mean a lot of people assume people are look I think the fact
that he's telling his work hey I'm not going to be in tomorrow I'm going to go to the job site first and that site was
the the resting spot mhm to me that's that kind of shows the whole plan laid out like yeah not just like well I I I
figured out how to dump them later because I knew I was going there anyway so I should just dump him there right
but to me that's very calculated so that's where I I lean towards the fact that he he killed his daughters first
because hey I got to get this done and then she gets home and then I got to kill her and then I got to get them all
ready to get them out to this job site right and I think you're right I think the the taking on that job at the last
minute and really pushing that he be the only one at that job site that points the most to me as
premeditation the thing I think here regardless of how smart some of his friends may think he is and if he were
capable of getting away with it because it looks to me like his plan was to dispose of their bodies there and then
it's afterward go home clean up the house remove shanann's belonging in and probably some of the children's
belongings he's likely going to want to make it look like they were either taken
from some you know by someone or that they left on their own MH and his his whole Alibi is well I was gone at work
the whole day while they either took off on their own or somebody got to them right what he didn't plan for was her
friend being so concerned that she dropped by the house and as you said she gut feeling raised the alarm you know
and called police stopped by the doctor's office to see that she had not in fact shown up for her 10:00
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Captain the other thing we got to call in a question here is motive or how much of a motive there was for these murders
why did it happen at all I mean we know the obvious reasons right the affair maybe wanting out of his
marriage but was there also a financial motive you you know you talked about some of the problems they were having
yeah and in fact Nicole kessinger told police that Chris was very stressed out about money now we know that shanan
handled the finances but there were definitely Financial issues that's what he said yeah that's what he says right
uh we know that there were Financial issues going on in fact finances were the one thing that anyone who knew the
couple well said that they argued about now the wats filed for bankruptcy in 2015 they were
$448,000 in debt Chris had to sell his car since the bankruptcy case closed in October of
2015 they got themselves into financial trouble again at the time of shannan's death this is so ridiculous because
first of all the fact the fact that we live in a country that you can rack up almost $500,000 worth of debt that that
will be wiped clean yeah you're going to lose a couple of your items but there's a
$400,000 house that you live in that they didn't take away that they still got to live in I mean it's just that's
ridiculous to me well at the time of of her death at the time of you know this murder their credit cards were pretty
much maxed out you know with with $8,000 to $10,000 balances well no [ __ ] because
if you file bankruptcy and you have to pay it back the first time what makes you think that you're going to have to
pay it back the second time it turns out their largest creditors were Toys R Us and Ford Motor Company the mortgage on
the $400,000 house was sizable with a monthly payment of 207 sorry $2,700 Chris says shanan wanted the
house he wanted a downsize they hadn't paid their mortgage in three months and received a delinquency letter from Chase
now even though shanan at some point took took $10,000 out of Chris's 401k to pay mortgage payments right Chris told
Nicole the couple was quote house poor and that their lifestyle was not sustainable yeah he had life insurance
policies on both the girls for $25,000 each and then on shanan it looks like there
was I have a little question on what the amount was for shanan but I saw reports
of as as little as $50,000 all the way up to $100,000 yeah but still that might not
have been the motive as far as the insurance policy right mhm because maybe that gets you a little bit out of debt
but it's also if he is telling the truth which I don't believe him about [ __ ] really but if he's saying look she
controlled the finances and and she pulled money and she charged things if she wanted
to his motive his motive could have just been to stop the financial bleeding and
she's the one causing the financial bleeding in his mind yeah I mean he would tell people
that she was an overs spender and he made references to her shopping habits saying that she you know she had to have
everything that she saw and she needed to purchase a lot of things to look like the perfect family yeah there's a lot of
keeping up with the Joneses here and a lot of fake narrative well and the girl went to a private school which was
rather pricey it was like $500 a week and I think that was per child and then we have a third child on the way I guess
there was a uh expensive neck surgery which was likely I mean necessary and needed possibly but again what what if
there is some hint of like hypercondriac right mhm and it's like this surgery that you don't really need but you have
con convinced everybody else that you need it and I know that seems extreme but I've heard of
cases married couple that the wife goes to Mexico to get stuff removed because they won't remove it in the States
because that's how delusional she got about her she's a hypochondriac well this surgery was for
a compressed disc it cost $100,000 with their insurance and they owed $25,000 out of pocket I'm sure you know some of
this was covered somewhere along the way we don't need to get too far into that but they had outstanding student loans I
mean it's just it's it's it's on and on and on and on and on but either way I mean you're you're in a marriage that
maybe you fall out of love you're in a marriage that the person's spending a lot more money you're not managing your
money correctly you already went bankrupt this is no reason for murder well of course you know you have a mistress no
reason for murder there's no reason to take your CH your children's life right I mean it's
just I understand his parents trying to find excuses and his parents trying to find
something that makes sense and it might be possible that he was under so much stress that he
just snapped but snapped for a period not killed these people in Rage but snapped in a period And if I do this and
I kill them this will be all over with well it is all over with well and I mean his mother for the longest time and I
believe still to this day you know but for regardless but for the longest time she was standing behind
the idea that shenan was responsible for the deaths of the two girls and then Chris retaliated that
he that he went and then killed her yeah now I mean obviously there's no motive great enough we're just exploring what
these possibilities are because there are you know throughout history and we've talked about several of them on
this show there are what law enforcement deem entitle um family annihilators and
Chris watts to me fits this profile like a lot of the stuff going on in his world
now these are choices he made this isn't he's not a victim here the this isn't [ __ ] that just started happening to him
these are all choices he made as a grown man but things going on in his world he's not he's not a man don't call him
that but you know what I mean as yeah whatever but but the things going on in his life at the time of these murders it
all seems to fit stories that we've heard before in similar situations with these family annihilators I mean very
much so like the Scott Peterson case m i mean so much so and I I don't know if I
want to spoil this but his we have the Google searches from the girlfriend right
Nicole and before she goes to the police I think it's before she goes to the police she Googles Scott Peterson
yeah yeah and Scott Peterson's mistress and then this this is this is Eerie to me mhm and there's something
really wrong here and this makes me it makes me question even more mhm because she Googles one do people
like Scott Peterson's mistress anymore do they hate her right right but Amber fry yeah Amber fry yeah she yeah and I'm
sorry to laugh but I thank God I'm able to because I this is a heavy case man a heavy heavy case and um I just needed
that little that little sigh of relief there after some of the stuff that we've discussed here but like you said man she
is searching whether people still hated or whether people hated Amber fry yeah and I look is that uh
is that a reasonable thing to search yeah okay I'll give it to you because you're going to the cops right
this is before you go to the cops and you go I was with this married man I knew it was wrong uh I didn't think he
was going to kill her I didn't think he was going to kill his daughters mhm how cute is it now that
he's a father right right so she has to go to the cops is it that wrong that she
searches that because if this hits the media like it's already has but if it blows up like the Chris um like the
Scott Peterson case are people going to hate me okay I'll give you that one but when you
Google how much Amber fry got for her book deal oh yeah yeah years a giant flaming pile of
[ __ ] and and then I think she did a big article on People magazine oh I didn't
see that how much she get paid for that one yeah you giant piece of [ __ ] like look you should not be a okay there's a
crime here did you cause the crime no but you're a part of it mhm and if you're a
part of it you shouldn't get paid for anything that's the way it should work oh I mean they might have paid her a
million dollars to do a story with People magazine do you deserve a million dollars you giant pile of dog [ __ ] no
you don't you you're a scumbag for sleeping with the married man you're you're a scumbag once you find out that
she's pregnant I mean the more and more she found out about it at some point you
should have cut this off you're part of the problem if if there's like you said if there is this new term which
eventually maybe we'll get to maybe we'll have this thing where it's you know a guy gets himself into this
situation he be he becomes a family Annihilator new term that's not a new term no what I'm saying is like I mean
well what yeah but you're identifying like a couple people but what I'm saying is like do they have like a clear def
definition of like what causes one of these individuals well no they just fall into a category you know you have serial
murders you have mass murderers you have family annihilators uh the list goes on
and on right but what I'm saying is that if you're the mistress then you're again
you're a part of the problem and by being part of the problem you shouldn't profit off
this yeah and where I mean where someone might be able to argue Google searching
whether Amber fry is a hated person or still hated person might look as maybe she could be another victim in this
whole mess but like you said the the checking out the how much money did Amber Fry's book deal amount to is
something completely different no and then look on top of that if you just look at the two
cases I mean Amber fry did not know Scott Peterson was not married in her mind was not told that he was married
mhm this you know it's a whole different thing with the Cole you work with this guy you know he's married he's telling
you he's separated well she attempted to delete every trace of her relationship with Chris from her phone before she
went to police and you know on Monday afternoon when she you know got word that shann and the girls were missing
she ran Google search for can cops Trace text messages and then another for how long do cell phone companies keep text
messages MH yeah and like I said I mean it's one of those SC where part of me does feel
bad for her but when you're searching that stuff it's almost like okay well I'm going to go to the cops hey is there
any way I can make a profit off this like come on be better than that you're better than that well on on that
night Chris Watts brought his little girls home from a birthday party they had pizza and candy and facetimed
Chris's dad then Chris showered both girls gave them a bedtime snack and put them to bed he was seen grilling alone
in his backyard at around 7:15 p.m. he spoke with Nicole for 2 hours that night ignoring calls from shenan at the
airport in Arizona and then texted his wife at 11:21 p.m. holy crap sorry I passed out on the couch shenan entered
the home at 1:48 a.m. what exactly happened after that we will likely never know
but what we do know is that sometime between 1:48 a.m. and 5:27 a.m. by then all three were murdered by the man that
was supposed to love them the most or well protect them yes or at least the the man that they likely loved the most
on November 6th 2018 3 months after annihilating his family Chris Watts pled guilty to nine felonies three counts of
first-degree murder murder two counts of murdering a child one count of unlawful
termination of a pregnancy and three counts of tampering with a deceased human body in court he was forced to say
guilty aloud nine times calling the crime the most inhumane and vicious he had ever seen in his career the judge
sentenced Chris Watts to five terms of life without parole well again the whole sentencing is on video you can watch
every second of it mhm well in a nice irony uh here's something that I found to be a little interesting all right Chris
Watts who murdered his wife and children and one of the reasons may have been because he was tired of being regimented
and directed you know his whole life was documented on social media his wife called the shots and his work documented
every move he made in his vehicle well he's now sitting in a prison being told what to do every minute of the day and
he'll never have to worry about money again if that was one of the motives right except that he is being forced to
pay restitution to his wife's family so he will have to work that off in prison and in Colorado thanks to him the
proposed Nico's law will make killing an unborn baby a first-degree murder yeah it should be and but I also
heard a lot of rumors that it's not going to be nice for uh Chris in prison it's not going to be just sleeping in
having a good time cable TV having a good time well I think no no no what I mean by that is like prison Justice
prison sucks but what I've heard is that um they've had to take they were taking
precautions early on because when the prisoners found out where he was staying getting excited they want to get to him
oh yeah because not only He's A Marked Man yeah you killed these innocent children and you killed your unborn baby
mhm I mean you you're you're beyond a piece of [ __ ] I mean well I I I hope him and Casey
Anthony just burn in hell well and I'd piss I piss on their graves I'll tell you that in a sick
irony Chris has been receiving hundreds of letters from romantic admirers in prison those are those are a bunch of
little pieces of [ __ ] these are love letters and sexy photos sent to uh an admitted family Annihilator yeah yeah I
mean kind of scumbag are you so that in for let me let me show you my titties you scumbag I mean come on they they
shouldn't allow that stuff anyways I you lost your you lost any privilege you lost your damn freedom
because you took somebody else's life so you lost your privilege to get any letter or maale from some sicko that
wants to go Oh I thought he was pretty cute yeah pretty cute till he suffocates you well I never understood I never
understood that I and I never Willers I never will now on the other end of the spectrum we have Nicole kessinger who
has apparently received so many death threats that it's been reported that she is being provided with Federal
Protection and possibly maybe she might get a new identity well and as like I said as much as I don't like the Google
searches you know uh I I do feel bad that she got mixed up in this but again you know sometimes you pay for your
actions you you you pay for your decisions mhm and so think about this you know you these people sometimes
think it's just you know I'm at work here's this guy he's married maybe he's separated maybe he's not he's given me a
little attention I like that well be careful for what you wish for because something that you just think is good
that feeds your ego a little bit could wrap you up in a mess that you don't want to be involved in well I take some
satisfaction captain in I'm pissed off man I take some satisfaction in the fact that the the people that seem to for
whatever reason there is and there's no good ones admire Chris Watts the individuals that want to harm him and
cause him pain they are the ones on the inside with him and they are the ones closest to
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Brief Summary

Chris Watts confessed to murdering his wife and daughters, detailing his motives and the investigation's findings.

Key points

Chris Watts's Confession. During interrogation, Chris admits to emotional harm but denies physical violence.
The Premeditation Evidence. Investigators reveal signs that Chris planned the murders rather than acting in rage.
The Creepy Doll Photo. Chris sent a strange photo to Shanann days before the murders, raising suspicions.
Financial Motives Explored. Discussion on the financial troubles faced by Chris and Shanan Watts, raising questions about possible motives for the murders.
Chris Watts' Guilty Plea. On November 6th, 2018, Chris Watts pled guilty to nine felonies, including three counts of first-degree murder.
Gratitude to the Audience. The hosts express heartfelt thanks for the support they've received over the years.

Episode highlights

Episode quotes

He told them he was having an affair.

Chris Watts admits to his infidelity during interrogation.

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Tension

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