Bruce McArthur /// Toronto’s Missing Men /// Part 1 | Forensic Files

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a chair grab a beer let's talk some true crime [Music] thank you [Music] when we first learned that Andrew was
missing on June the 26th last year we were shocked we have spent the last seven months putting up posters
searching for him with his friends with his co-workers and even complete strangers who cared enough to help find
him through this we have come to know Andrew even better he was well known in his community he
was a hard worker and he was loved by all we looked for him in the heat in the rain and in the snow
December 9 was the last day that Karen and I searched for him it was snowing yesterday morning I received a call from
detective Dave Dickinson telling me that they made an arrest I was in shock all I remember is saying
oh my God oh my God I asked only one question did they find his body the answer was no I would like to thank
Andrew friends and his co-workers for keeping his name in the media and the media for keeping his face in the public
eye and the police for all their hard work I mean you always have hope that you know he's going to be found you know
alive somewhere because there's medical issues there's things that can happen I mean you you that's the hard part when
someone's missing is you live with hope and you live with despair like you hope that they're going to be found but you
despair that they'll never be and and you know at least now there's a conclusion to Andrew's story
[Music] Toronto Canada late 2010 Mr Abdul basar fiese is a 42 year old man born in
Afghanistan and at some point in this man's life he had immigrated to Canada from Iran now
he went by the name of basur now basur is a Muslim man a father and a husband and his family is Muslim as well
he lived with his wife and two daughters but served back in 2010 worked as an assistant machine operator at a local
printing company he would often tell his family that he was working 12-hour days now
unfortunately becer was a closeted man I can't speak to every day but from the way it sounds most days but sir was not
actually working 12-hour days he would go to work and then he would go to bars or to bath houses after work
now on December 29 2010 berserk called home late in the evening and said that he would be home very very late that
night he had stated that he had worked a long day and he was going to go out with
a friend from work after he was done but sir did not return home that night nor did he return the next day or the
day after now some time went by and his family was seeking answers as to where he could be
and why he did not return home so trying to determine why his family did some snooping and they accessed his computer
well they were shocked when they discovered that bassir had been secretly going to bath houses in the gay Village
area in Toronto he had also been on several gay dating websites and apps with names such as
silver daddies and bear 4-1-1 and he was also going to different gay bars or at least gay friendly bars right yes and so
you know a relative would later tell news outlets that bassir had hid that he was gay from his family and then when
when his family went to police to report him as a missing person right now they told the officers what they had found on
bazaar's computer and what they had learned about him since he had disappeared after hearing
all of this officers suggested that messur had probably just left running off to start a new life right
but sir's family shared this belief in fact some sometime after but sir's wife made it official and divorced him
she was angry with him she actually thought that he had abandoned her and their two young daughters
so police were convinced that he had just decided to up and leave and start another life and the family was pretty
convinced of this as well so unfortunately we have this man who goes missing but no one's really looking for
but sir but please have kind of a problem on their hands because there's several men that have been to these bars
in this gay Village that have gone missing no because almost four months earlier in September of 2010 and I I do
have to make an apology before okay to all the listeners out there and to uh everyone you don't have
to apologize anyone in the show anyone in the universe I'm apologizing to you but uh most people that have followed
this show for a good amount of time know that this is not the place that you go to to get a uh pronunciation lesson
lesson you didn't minor in that no and actually I frequently get pronunciation lessons from uh emailers so
um but uh this this case holds a lot of tricky names so I'm going to give it my best shot give it my 100 effort here
well we're gonna need you to give it 110 today so here we go um this man age 40 his name is skandora
navaratna no okay uh he was reported missing in early September of 2010. he was known to
frequent Toronto's gay Village specifically Church Street and Wellesley Street now he was better known to his
fan his friends as skanda okay and he was last seen at a bar called zippers skanda was a regular there he liked to
go to zippers and shoot pool uh he went to the bar on Sunday September 5th and was last seen leaving
in the early morning hours of September 6th with a man on his arm the sixth was a holiday so late night
partying should be expected now the man he left with well this is troubling because
one thing that we should point out here is that with any with any bars you typically have regulars yeah okay and I
I actually from hearing interviews and reading what Witnesses have stated in these different accounts here in this
specific case that we're discussing today it seems like the These Bars that we're
talking about had an even higher number of regulars yeah that they would they would see time and time again very few
times would you see you know let's call it a stranger walking into one of these bars now the troubling thing here is
that skanda is last seen with a man in the early morning hours of Monday September 6 leaving this bar this
zippers bar well it makes it a little more scary that people are going missing when these bars are filled with regulars
so then you have to start assuming on some level that the people that are going missing are going missing because
of a regular well in discussing the man that scanda was last seen with the troubling thing
the biggest troubling thing is people could not identify this man the the bartender said he didn't know who
this man was and actually the thought amongst those that were interviewed is that the two scanned in this Unknown man
that they were not in any kind of a relationship but the two had probably met that night right and then we see
something similar with this disappearance that we saw when we spoke about basur skanda was a free-spirited
man he would often take off and go out of town for a night or two very regularly right so there was this
assumption here of course that that when he didn't show up for a day or two that this skin
had just gone somewhere you know he went off on one of his his one one of his adventures let's say
the other thought too was some people had wondered if there was a chance that scanda had fallen in love with someone
maybe even the man that he was last seen with leaving zippers and maybe the two had run away together then about two
years after basur and skanda go missing this is now October 14 2012. Majid Cayenne who lives in Toronto
he is reported missing now this man is 58 years old at the time that he's reported missing kaihan is also a member
of Toronto's gay village community The Disappearance of majeed was different in the sense that no one that
police spoke with said that he would take off for any reason at all so okay this is unsettling right right the
opposite yeah so now we have three adult males have gone missing in the course of
a about a two-year time frame now let's say basur didn't take off and decided you know didn't take off to abandon his
family now unfortunately you know from the outside looking in that's what that looks like you know when you see that
when you see the this man has things on his computer uh and this whole life that
no one seems to have known anything about with his family that's what it looks like when you are on the outside
looking in right but if he didn't take off on his own then we have three men all 42 years of age are older
similar ethnic backgrounds all known to have been frequenting gay bars so plenty
in common here when you look at this from a victimology aspect could there be something going on in this area in this
community so police set up a task force to look into these disappearances they called
the task force project Houston this was set up in 2012. why do they call that you know that's the one thing
I've always wondered about with these task force because sometimes I find that the name has some kind of relevance
right maybe they had something you know that would make them come up with the name project Houston if I were involved
in a task force I would want the job of naming the task force because there's always some like interesting name
but so project Houston however set up in 2012 the the task force only lasted about 18 months this was closed when
investigators on the task force could find no evidence leading them to the whereabouts of these three gentlemen or
evidence to suggest that the cases were linked in any way other than the commonalities that we have just pointed
out here it could have been as simple as there was a rumor that one of the guys went to Houston and maybe that's why
they named it such a weird name for this case well the other thing that I want to
point out here too and I don't want anybody jumping my back here I'm I'm the most
well-rounded individual you will ever meet I'm a man of the people but here's a lot of round edges here's one thing I
want to point out from a law enforcement perspective okay when they're looking at
a case like this when you when we're talking to potential victims families and we say potential victims families
because we we have three different scenarios one where a man appears that he may have just taken off and left
right to a man that was known to leave for short periods of time but return and then another man that's the complete
opposite that would never leave for any reason at all right without telling people right so so we may only have two
victims here or one victim here we we don't know if we have victims yet because we have no bodies right and
jumping off the page here we really only have one person that looks like he is somewhere that he shouldn't be or where
he would not be expected to be right so from a law enforcement perspective even if even if all three of these men
were endangered or if they had met with Foul Play somehow you have a situation where you have to question it is there a
possibility of Foul Play involved in any of the disappearances of these men and I
bring up that thought of a high-risk lifestyle because that would be on my mind if I were law enforcement talking
about these cases if I were involved in task force uh project Houston you know and what I mean by that is it doesn't
have anything to do with being a man or a woman or homosexual or heterosexual but when you have individuals that are
reported by friends and family to believe to have having numerous casual encounters with
different people then that is a bit of a high risk lifestyle that's exposing yourself to
people that your friends don't know that your family don't know that that you may
be spending an evening with or some time with and and the reason why it's high risk you don't know them either
you don't you don't know much about them either you know if if I meet you captain
in a bar you you're shooting pool we're having a good time and I've never seen you before did you find me on Silver
Daddies no I found you in the bar I I was shooting a game of pool I challenged you
to a game of pool and what I know about you if I decide to leave with you or if I decide to invite you somewhere with me
I'm a little a little uncomfortable here but you see what I'm saying I only know
what you've told me about yourself which could all be complete lies yeah I think
the risk the risky Behavior you're talking about is you know it's you're not going home
every night and watching Netflix I mean if you're going out to a bar uh you know
more than four or five times a week then you're putting yourself at more of a risk if you're meeting people at bars
and then going back to their house you're putting yourself at risk if you're meeting people on websites or
dating apps then you're putting yourself at risk um so and and especially now you know I
have a lot of single friends that are on the Tinder and um what's the other one Bumble uh these
dating apps and they're going on sometimes two or three dates in a day yeah I haven't had a date in three years
but but they're going on because I'm not going to take the risk well there's danger in everything that we do captain
and I you know I don't want to ruin anybody's party but you can tell by the captain intros want to be the first
party that you've ruined that I'm super excited about St Patrick's Day but you know people go out and celebrate you got
to be careful and I tell you what one thing that is strange you know this this is strange that my brain ticks this way
but you know what was it last weekend or the weekend before was the Arnold Classic comes to Columbus and
unfortunately we've had two cases that we've talked about on our show where we've had
College age men or well men in their late 20s go missing during the weekend of the Arnold challenge yeah I think the
Arnold is the number two human trafficking event in the world what's the first one Super Bowl Super Bowl yeah
yeah uh so you know I me and some of my friends uh and we have a a joke but in all seriousness we we are serious about
this because we will say oh we don't go downtown during the Arnold Classic well and it's getting pretty sad because
that's becoming an issue in every bar well let's shift gears here for a bit we just discussed the closing of project
Houston but one of the biggest aspects of this case is something called project prism
so we're going to have to fast forward a bit because in August of 2017 that is when project prism is formed to
investigate the disappearances of a couple of men this is amid pressure from the public now while project prism is
going to be a big aspect of this case many believe and rightfully so that the Catalyst for project prism well was
something that was a major change and now we talked about the three men who had gone missing in the two-year time
frame from 2010 to to late 2012 but in the time after those disappearances and leading up to 2017
men continue to go missing these would be men believed to frequent Toronto's gay Village then on April 20th of 2017 a
man by the name of Salim Asin he's 44 years old he lives in Toronto he is reported missing now a little
background info a sin came to Canada from Turkey around three years before he went missing and he went to Canada for a
relationship some of his friends say that that a sin he had struggled with addiction
which he was very open about you know he didn't hide this uh addiction problem that he had right but he also was in a
relationship that was was often abusive yeah that's sad now in the months leading up to his disappearance he was
doing much better he was winning his battle over his addiction and he was staying away from his on and off again
boyfriend the one that is responsible for the often abusive relationship a sin was last seen on April 14 2017
this was close to his apartment building near Bloor Street and Jarvis Street police were they were treating his
disappearance as suspicious well yeah and he would kind of wonder if he's in an abusive relationship is that person
responsible for him going missing yes major red flag there now in June of 2017 here's here's what I think is a big
thing that changed in these cases and it might be the victimology because where we have a lot of guys who we
described they were described by family and friends or people of the community as men who quote are people on the
margins of Canadian Society whose disappearance is attracted little public attention well now in 2017 and
June 28th there's a man named Andrew Kinsman who lives in Toronto he's reported missing he was last seen alive on June
26th Andrew was 49 years old he was a lgbqt activist and a former bartender in Toronto who had many many friends when
he went missing so his friends well they took notice that he was gone and it's reported that Andrew suddenly
went missing the day after Toronto's gay pride parade and as we said his friends
took notice very quickly and so did the police actually leading into today's story The ver the voices that you heard
there over top of the captain's always fantastic music those two ladies are Andrew's sisters so while some of the
other men's disappearances received little attention Andrew kinsman's on the other hand had search parties and scores
of friends looking for him when he went missing looking into Andrew's background
he was a superintendent and a long-term volunteer at the Toronto people with AIDS Foundation friends and family
actually figured pretty quickly that the man must have just they they figured that he was dead Okay shortly after he
went missing because um after he went missing they they went to his apartment they they got gained access somehow into
his apartment just two days after he went missing finding his cat finding Andrew's cat was left alone in his
apartment and Andrew is a person that is described by all that I could find as someone that was extremely responsible
he was a very responsible man and one thing that he certainly would would not do is to neglect his job duties as a
superintendent or neglect his cat yeah so it's because of the disappearances of Salim a sin and Andrew Kinsmen that the
police decided to start up another investigation in task force and this time the investigation is called project
prism looking into the disappearances of these two men and both of these disappearances considered by family and
police as suspicious in nature foreign Cheers Cheers Captain so where we left off we had three guys that went missing
from the gay Village in Toronto and so they set up a task force called project Houston and then they closed that
project down and then they set up a new project because we had another two guys that went missing and they called that
project prism yeah so I want to make sure that we are painting the right picture here for
everyone so most of us probably live in some sort of big city or even if you're not in the big city you might travel
there for shopping or going out for coffee or just hanging out with friends so figure this that over the course of
about eight years every time you venture into that big city when you're going to
meet up with some of your friends or whatever every time you go there there is a missing flyer taped to a lamp post
yeah on the corners at intersections and then a year later there's still a missing flyer taped to the lamp post on
those Corners at the same intersections only this time it's a different man's face on the flyer with a different name
and a new phone number to call and then the next time you go for coffee the same
thing but again a different man different name well and every time you go to a bar you kind of hear hey this
guy was at this bar and then he left with somebody and he's never ever been seen again well that's what people in
Toronto were seeing around this time and you don't have to you know you only have
to be in the big city a few times and see these different missing Flyers to know there's something going on here you
don't even have to be part of the gay community or frequent those bars to know that something is going on and it ain't
right so we talked briefly about the two task force but there is going to be one major
breakthrough and that will be the difference between that of project Houston and that of project prism this
big breakthrough is one of the cases that we are looking at in Project prism and this case is going to produce a
potential suspect and even better this might even suggest that the three cases listed as part of of that project
that there may be more in common with these cases than just men of similar ages going to the same places or living
similar Lifestyles or possibly linked together because yes one can quickly start to find things in common from the
cases in Project Houston and then the cases in Project prism but not only made the victimology be similar but we have
one common thread here and that Common Thread is a man by the name of Bruce MacArthur right but what is his tie
going to be to these gentlemen that went missing well it appears that there is some
evidence to suggest that Bruce MacArthur had ties to two of the men on our missing men list okay so one of those
men was skanda and then the other is Andrew Kinsman so friends of skanda would say that
MacArthur employed and had some kind of sexual relationship with skanda from 1999 until
2008. so the relationship ending about two years before Scana goes missing yeah that's a long relationship later we
would learn that MacArthur's Facebook profile also showed that he was friends with skanda
some others were saying that Andrew Kinsmen had some type of romantic relationship with MacArthur for an
unknown amount of time and again like we said they were using dating websites such as silver
daddy Silver Daddies silver daddies and the other one was Bear411 but I think there was a lot more
um websites or apps being used amongst because now we're talking about a large group of people you know where we
started off with one missing man where we're now talking about we have a suspect and plus five missing men that
we've discussed there may be more that we've not discussed so we're starting to talk about a large pool of people so who
is this Bruce McArthur guy so MacArthur grew up in kawatha Lakes this is northeast of Toronto and he married his
wife Janice in the mid-1980s Janice yep and they resided in Oshawa now the couple they have a son and a daughter
and then later of course grandchildren right so obviously at some point he's living
as a heterosexual male he gets married he has kids they have kids now he's a grandfather but now he is going on dates
with men well we haven't quite got there yet um so Bruce MacArthur faced financial
difficulties in the mid to late 90s and then eventually declared bankruptcy in 1999. and then after being estranged
from his wife MacArthur began socializing with members of Toronto's gay community
and then as of 2018 Bruce MacArthur worked as a self-employed landscape Gardener yeah and in 2018 he's going to
be living in thorncliff park uh it's Central East Toronto yeah you live there alone now let's go
back to 2001 because in 2001 Bruce MacArthur well he was accused of assault and let's go through this shall we so we
do not have the victim's name here the victim's name is was not shared nor is it necessary for you know to tell about
MacArthur's past but what was presented and what was heard at the trial is that MacArthur and the victim they knew each
other but they didn't have like a personal relationship or I wouldn't even say that
they were they were friends according to documents they knew each other just enough to say hello say hello if they
saw each other on the street or in a bar some reports state that the victim was a
quote male Hustler uh which could be true we can't say for certain but I'm not mean
male Hustler um well we have to to be clear here we're going off of a court document that
states that this man may have been the victim may have been a male Hustler now the court document does not go on to
Define what they believe a male Hustler to be so I will let everybody else out there use their imagination and you can
decide what you think they mean by that so and the reason why I say it in that way Captain is because that could be
true it could it could not be true who knows um but the story goes something like
this now it's Halloween it's Halloween night so October 31st 2001 MacArthur and this man they go back to the man's house
and the victim allowed MacArthur into his apartment according to both parties no sexual encounter took place that day
in fact the reason for the two men going to the apartment was this the victim wanted to show MacArthur his Halloween
costume well what the man did not know is MacArthur had concealed a lead pipe and once inside the apartment when the
man had his back turned to Bruce McArthur Bruce pulled out the pipe and hit the man multiple times in the head
now good for the victim because he was able to uh quickly defend himself at the best that he could and I don't want to
make this sound any less brutal than it truly was this man was badly and savagely attacked by Bruce yeah for some
reason and we can get into this if you have any thoughts on the matter Captain but after the attack Bruce
the attacker to be clear Bruce went to Police Headquarters almost immediately afterward reporting that he had hurt
someone the incident had traumatized the victim he he his injuries required that he'd go
to the hospital and he received stitches for his injuries okay so let's go back to this whole idea that they're in his
apartment to show a Halloween costume to Bruce Bruce pulls out a lead pipe we don't think that
there was any argument that we know of and Bruce attacks this man there was no argument this was a sneak attack right
and then Bruce goes to law enforcement and says hey I just attacked somebody yeah
all right interesting and so then what does law enforcement do well this thing's going to go to court and Bruce
actually gets a chance to speak to the judge on the matter in which MacArthur said he did not know why he attacked the
victim he he also said that he just wanted let me tell you why why because use a piece of [ __ ] who does that uh yeah I
don't know I don't know why I attacked him how about you start with why did you have a lead pipe
yeah you know okay keep going well that that's the thing you don't just happen to have a lead pipe right you have you
you brought that with you to the man's apartment anyway MacArthur told the court that he just wanted to apologize
to the court for what had happened that his life had been kind of a mess in the last year and a half leading up to this
and knowing what's going to happen and what's happened to him uh was just a mess he continued he also said that he
would like to apologize to the victim I stating I wouldn't know what to say other than I'm sorry for all the pain
and anger I have caused him so the crown and the defense put forward a joint submission on sentencing and
which Bruce MacArthur would spend spend one year under house arrest followed by a curfew for six months and then three
years probation that's just not enough well hang on MacArthur was also barred from a specific area that included
Toronto's gay village where the crown indicated that MacArthur could come into contact with male sex workers the
Crown's words end quote from my perspective it's in the best interest to keep him meaning Bruce MacArthur out of
the area where he's more likely than not to come into be enticed by male prostitutes another condition of
MacArthur's sentence included MacArthur being prohibited from taking illicit drugs specifically mentioned were
poppers and this information was taken from an article in the star where they go on to mention that poppers are are a
chemical compound which can be inhaled prior to sex and is a popular drug now he was also ordered to seek
counseling for mental health issues particularly for Anger Management MacArthur was prohibited from having any
firearms for at least 10 years and because assault causing bodily harm is what is called a primary designated
offense the judge was required to make a DNA order now the DNA order allowed a bodily substance samples to be taken
from the offender this is Bruce McArthur typically through a mouth swab to be added to a database this just seems like
a pretty light sentence to me for taking a lead pipe and attacking somebody and I
think because this individual was a sex worker or they assume is a sex worker thought to be yeah that um
that the sentence is lighter because of it well okay so you're exactly right captain and um the thing here is what I
the way that I think this went down and what what you see within this sentence to me is a lot of
um precautionary strategies being taken against this man yeah but you know what would make the community safer
putting this guy behind bars but I think here's where the problem with that lies
with the court system okay so one you have an offender who turned himself in immediately after the attack
so the court is going to look at that in a different way than if they would have
had to Manhunt this guy and track him down and arrest him and so not only did he turn himself in
but he's also pleading guilty the problem that you also have here and this is a suspicion of mine I can't say this
with 100 certainty my guess is that the victim did not care to partake in the court proceedings possibly not yeah and
well what I do know about the victim is that the victim never filed an impact statement
so uh I'm guessing that the victim probably had very little to do with the actual Prosecuting of Bruce McArthur
right so you the victim is not shouting throw him in jail then well here's the thing you you have two
things going on you have a you have a trial where you have the offender who's saying look I did this I'm guilty and I
turned myself in and then you have the what we would call the states case here in the in the United States the state's
case would be we don't have a victim to present to you to say this is what happened right so that's why I think
this is the sentence seems a little light however what I wonder about and and what I kind of applaud the judge in
the court system here for doing is that I see a lot of precautionary attempts here at at hey we believe this guy could
be pretty violent we don't understand what went down we don't have a victim to speak with he doesn't really understand
it right or at least what he's claiming is he doesn't understand why he attacked
maybe we just need to make sure that a his DNA is in the system because that's a huge deterrent and I don't care what
anybody says out there I will argue that until the the until the cows come home where were the cows but anyway I will
argue that until the cows come home and then B this man can't hold any firearms for at least 10 years we want him to go
to anger management classes so there's a lot of precautionary things going on here also we don't want him to be in an
area or around people that we identify that would fall into play with his victim
you know that line up with his victim yeah that's the scary thing about this though hey we want you to stay out of
this area I mean to me that's basically stating to the community that this guy is
um as a Potential Threat down the line yeah he's either somebody that just needs a little bit of help or is a
threatening individual now that we know a little bit more about Bruce MacArthur let's fill in some of our timeline here
so it was late June 2017 when Andrew Kinsman was last seen and then reported missing it was August of that same year
when project prism was formed now in September of 2017 this is this is interesting here this is when police
identify Bruce MacArthur whom we just discussed as a person of possible interest in the connection uh with
Andrew kinsman's disappearance right now this is not announced at this time to the public this is simply just a part of
their investigation then in October of 2017 police begin to follow Bruce McArthur that's right he is
put under surveillance good he's being followed and I don't have the details of such but this is what we've seen we've
seen this type of activity from police it's almost certainly Around the Clock surveillance
so what does that mean that means they think this dude is up to something terrible and if we follow him long
enough we might be able to catch him in the act or catch him in the act of breaking some kind of law so we can lock
him up right but we have these individuals in this community that Bruce has been a part of
um and he had a vicious attack against somebody from this community and now I mean
you know your thoughts have to be on some level when you're looking for these missing men that when you come across
Bruce MacArthur and then you figure out what he did what the crime he did to be in the system
you start you this be kind of a light bulb moment right this could be our guy of course well in December this is
December 5th of 2017 police warn members of Toronto's gay community to be weary of dating apps to stay away from
dating apps and then three days later on the 8th of December this is a bit of a strange move and
we'll get into this more later but the police say that there is no reason to believe that the disappearances in the
two different task force cases are related meaning The Disappearance in relation to
um project Houston which was three missing men right and then the two missing persons cases in Project prism
they're announcing to the public that there is no reason for anyone to believe that these disappearances are connected
to one another that's interesting but they're saying don't use these dating apps you know that there's some
guy out there right he's on uh what is Silver Daddies [Music] and he gets no likes on his photos right
everybody's swiping him left right and he gets a date and he's excited with a handsome gentleman they're
supposed to go to the gay Village on Friday night but on Thursday night he turns on his radio
right it's on the radio Thursday night and the police are like hey knock it off with these dating apps
don't use them we got people going missing and we think they're connected with possibly dating websites or a
dating app what do you do you go on the date or did you risk it no here's what you do
I'll tell you what you do okay you postpone the date for at least a week maybe a week and a half and during the
meantime you stalk this gentleman online find out everything you can about him bring some pepper spray now in all
seriousness um me I'm a gut feeling guy and and throughout my life I've gotten some gut feelings that just tell me not
to do something for no reason at all right I follow that gut I don't do it now anybody that chooses to use dating
apps or you know more power to you there's nothing wrong with it there's a lot of good people meeting other good
people that way tell somebody where you're going bring a friend along for the first encounter there are many
different things that you can do go to a place where you know a lot of other people you know hey you want you want to
go here and hang out where I know other people uh my friends will text me and say I think it happened Saturday hey I'm
gonna meet this guy at whatever time right uh I'm a horrible person because I start making CR killer jokes oh there
you go that that always makes everybody feel happy so anyway in December we have
the police warning people not to use these dating apps we also have P the police saying that the discip
appearances between the two projects while they might be connected within each other they're not connected to the
other and then this happened [Music] this morning at approximately 10 25 A.M police arrested 66 year old Bruce
McArthur of the city of Toronto he is self-employed as a landscaper using the company name artistic design
and he lives in the thorncliff Park area he has been charged with two counts of first degree murder in relation to Mr
Kinsman and Mr Essen we believe he is responsible for for the deaths of Mr Essen and Mr Kinsman
and when we believe he's responsible for the deaths of other men who have yet to
be identified in other words we believe there are other victims as of right now interviews are taking
place and police have secured five properties four in Toronto and one in madok connected to Bruce McArthur in an effort
to further investigate these occurrences we have not yet found the bodies uh we're actively looking for them uh
we're conducting these search warrants in efforts to locate the bodies but at this point in time no we have not
located them I'm well aware of the difficulty of Prosecuting people without recovering the bodies but in this case
we believe we have strong enough evidence where we can do exactly that foreign so now we're saying or law enforcement
is saying we think at least these two um the two victims that are connected with on Project prism are connected so
the way that this is being reported at this time is that on January 17 2018 investigators searched several
properties all linked to Bruce McArthur including his residence and a property where he was known to store supplies
evidence at either one or both of these locations is found that seems to be good
enough to tie Bruce McArthur uh to the deaths of Kinsmen and ascend now at this time at the time of the arrest as you
heard on January 18 2018 they have no bodies yet uh but regardless MacArthur is arrested
and charged with two counts of first-degree murder now a little more clarity on the subject
because one question that I find presented often it seems this to be a big one is how and when did this guy get
on the police's radar right right because here we have them saying he's linked to two cases via the charges we
just discussed but there is certainly a much longer relationship between Bruce and a man that disappeared Bruce
employed scanda and uh they had a romantic relationship so when and why did Bruce appear on the
police's Radar Now Toronto police have not said exactly how long Bruce MacArthur had been on their radar they
have said that the charges were laid out after months of probing now according to
information told to the local media by employees at a place called Dom's Auto Parts shop
well a source says investigators had been on to Bruce MacArthur since at least the fall of 2017. in fact the
owner of the shop said police officers arrived in late September this was because they there were suspicious about
a vehicle they asked for and began watching surveillance video of Bruce MacArthur
selling his Dodge Caravan to the shop after studying the tape the police then seized the old rusted maroon Dodge
Caravan sold by MacArthur and they had it towed away there's always a creeper van now my guess is there must have been
something in that van because then they start that's when they start to follow Bruce MacArthur around
and then listen to this new story and listen close because there's a lot in there
oh I'm Adrienne Gabriel we're live outside of alleged serial killer Bruce McArthur's Apartments tonight in East
Toronto now the tonight a police Source confirms with us that back on January 18th they watched a young man walk into
the 19th floor of MacArthur's apartment that is when officers moved in rushing the apartment kicking down the door
inside they found that young man handcuffed to the alleged serial Killer's bed now our police Source says
that young man made it out safe though tonight we're learning more about another man whose fate is still unclear
he was just a lovely person and he's going to be missed investigators believe 47-year-old Dean lisowick was killed
sometime between May 2016 and July 2017. no one ever reported him missing however
Lisa Wick was a regular at the Scott mission in Toronto for more than a decade staff told me the last time he
was there was in April of 2016. I spoke with a long time worker at the mission today who knew lisawick and shared her
colleagues memories of him a memory of a man they say is important to share he would often give to clients out of his
own so if he realizes somebody needed shelter he would put him upon himself that person needs it more than me and he
would give up his bed and very generous out of just whatever he had whether it was change or an item of clothing he
would often be known just to pass that on to other clients or residents MacArthur is charged with the murder of
five men Andrew Kinsman Saleem Essen Majid Kahan saroosh Mash Moody and Dean lisowick you yesterday we told you that
police have Unearthed the dismembered remains of at least three unidentified individuals from multiple large Planters
from some of the 30 properties they're sifting through on January 21st City News captured
police removing this large heavy planter from the property of Ron Smith and Karen
Frazier today I spoke on the phone with Smith he says police have been very professional while conducting their
investigation on the couple's Lee side property and his heart goes out to the victims and their families though being
removed from their homes with no return date in sight has been difficult what an upheaval you have to get out of
your house you have to get out now this is serious and bye bye so we grabbed a couple of things left and it's been a
shambles ever since there's an alternate reality you're waking up we we're now on
our second group of friends who've been good enough to be able to keep us um we aren't that far away so what we do
is every now and then we drive by just to check in to see what it looks like and it really is
very surreal now Smith adds that MacArthur worked on his property for about 10 years he'd do
some free work there in turn they let MacArthur store some of his equipment on their Lee's side property in the garage
at their home now tonight the folks over at Scott Mission also confirm with me that police came and interviewed them
just before we went in there today they were asking if anyone else who uses the mission may have ties to Bruce McArthur
tonight the investigation still continues it's a story we'll be keeping a close eye on in the days to come
foreign [Music] so just to be clear what they stated that they were following Bruce they were
running surveillance on him a male goes into his apartment they decide to go into the apartment
make arrests I think they were worried what would happen to this individual when they get in there this individual
is handcuffed yes and that's a whole nother big ball of yarn that we're going to have to unravel on tomorrow's show
much more to get to in this case we'll talk about that tomorrow we'll see you in the garage until then be good be kind
and don't litter thank you [Music]

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Brief Summary

The episode discusses the disappearances of men in Toronto's gay Village and Bruce MacArthur's connection to the cases.

Key points

The Shock of an Arrest. A family learns of an arrest in the case of their missing loved one, leaving them in shock.
Project Houston Task Force. A task force is established to investigate the disappearances of men from Toronto's gay Village.
The Disappearance of Andrew Kinsman. Andrew Kinsman, a well-known LGBTQ activist, goes missing shortly after Pride, prompting immediate concern.
Project Prism Investigation. The police launch Project Prism to investigate the suspicious disappearances of Andrew Kinsman and others.
Bruce MacArthur's Arrest. Bruce MacArthur is arrested and charged with two counts of first-degree murder.
Bruce McArthur Arrested. Bruce McArthur is arrested and charged with two counts of first-degree murder.

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You live with hope and despair.

Describing the emotional turmoil of having a missing loved one.

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Tension

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