A twisted partnership leads to more victims (Part 2/3) | Forensic Files

[Music] here is a quick recap of part one Ian Brady and Myra Hindley met while working together at Mill woods
merchandising company they committed the murder of 16 year old Pauline rage on the 12th of July 1960 three full months
later the 23rd of November 1963 they murdered 12 year old John killbride they drove both victims to Saddleworth Moor
where they killed them and to buried them police are investigating both disappearances and there was a large
amount of media interest in boats but the two cases had not been linked the families of Pauline and John were doing
everything they could to find them organizing their own searches and door knocks Brady and Hindley visited them
more often on what they caught reconnaissance trips they had started taking what they called souvenirs
photographs of themselves thinning on the graves which were put into albums to everyone else the photos blended in with
other pictures of holidays and family gatherings only Brady and Hindley near the secret
shortly after Pauline Reed's murder Brady bought Hindley a record the theme song to the legions last patrol by Ken
thorn and his orchestra the morning of John kill Brides murder Brady bought her the record 24 hours
from Tulsa by Gene Pitney Brady called bees anniversary gifts for the anniversary of their perfect crimes if
either of them hummed the songs that would be a private reference to the murders it was now the 16th of June 1964
7 months after the murder of John kilbride Brady had told Hindley he was ready to do another one and he gave her
another anniversary gift it's over by Roy Orbison [Music] that evening of June 16th 1964 Hindu Li
hopped in her new car amorous mini travel a two-door station wagon she drove to Brady's house on
Westmoreland Street stopping on the way to put on her black week she arrived at 7:30 p.m.
Brady was waiting outside further he jumped in the backseat and told Hindley he would tap on the glass divider
between the front and back to indicate a potential victim this time they didn't travel far they didn't even get out of
Westmoreland Street there were several children out playing Brady spotted one on his own and tapped on the glass
divider Hindle he pulled up next to the boy and went down her window the boy was 12-year old Keith Bennett he
had turned 12 only four days earlier he lived a 29 Eston Street with his mother Winnie he stepfather Jimmy Johnson and
five younger brothers and sisters Keith's stepsister Susan was closest in age to him and they went everywhere
together like John killbride Keith loved going to the cinema and would often ask for money
from his mother so he and Susan could go Keith's youngest sister Margaret who was
three adored him and followed him around everywhere he loved playing football with his brother Allen and who they had
painted goal posts on a brick wall at the end of this tree Keith's mother Winnie separated from his father when he
was young and married Jimmy in 1961 keith had a good relationship with Jimmy and called him dad physically keith was
small for his age he had sandy brown hair and wore glasses as he suffered from acute short sightedness here is a
quote from Winnie talking about Keith there was no harming him he enjoyed life and was very interested in nature he
used to pick up leaves and caterpillars and bring them home and he collected coins the day of his birthday he
participated in a school swimming gala where he swung a length of the old Victorian baths for the first time
winning a certificate later that day he accidentally dropped his glasses and broke one of the lenses when he said she
would fix his glasses but still hadn't gotten around to it by June 16th when he arranged for the
children to spend that night June 16th 1964 at their grandmother's house while she went to the 8 p.m. bingo session
Kate's grandmother lived in Morton Street which was known in the neighborhood as the concrete since the
ground was flat while the rest of the streets were cobbled there was a popular Street for children as it was much
easier to ride bikes and scooters Morton Street was located only three streets away from Westmoreland Street a few
minutes before 7:30 p.m. when he left her house with Keith the other children were already at their grandmother's
house Keith got ahead of Winnie who was struggling to keep up she was only a few
weeks away from giving birth Keith started chasing after some girls from school he knew into Winnie yelled at him
to be careful Keith turned around and smiled at her he kept on walking and crossed the Stockport Road when he kept
a vigilant eye on him as she was concerned he wouldn't be able to see cars coming without his glasses when he
crossed the road safely he turned and waved at his mother before heading down a side street which were taking to
Westmoreland Street on the way to his grandmother's when Hindley rolled down her window she
looked at Keith with a smile and asked if he would mind helping her carry some boxes from an off license store
chief immediately looked at the back seat where Brady was sitting sensing Kate's confusion
Hindley said Brady was there to help carry boxes - Keith thought about it for a moment and ended up agreeing he got
into the front passenger seat and Hindley drove off but they didn't get very far before Brady told her to stop
when Hindley pulled over Brady asked Keith to join him in the back seat Keith agreed and Brady started
telling him a story about Hindley losing a glove he said the glove was of great sentimental value to her and she lost it
near Greenfield Brady told Keith they would really appreciate it if he would help them look for it
Keith agreed when they reached the more Brady told Keith to walk with him so they could start looking for the glove
Brady had a new addition this visit his camera Keith followed Brady and the more
in tingly grabbed a pair of binoculars before locking the car and walking after them as she watched them walk ahead she
thought Keith looked like a little lamb to the slaughter Bradley turned around looked at Hindley and pointed towards a
slope Engel he went to where he pointed and watched from her binoculars but she seemed lost sight of them so she sat
down on the ground and waited she claimed to not hear or see a thing just the black rocks that were ahead of her
after about 40 minutes Bradley returned with the Spade which was covered with dirt
Hindley asked what happened and Bradley said that after he assaulted Keith he strangled him with a length of cord the
same as he had done with John except this time he took a picture of Keith's body before he buried him Brady started
walking back to the car in Tindall II followed Brady buried the Spade on the way they drove back to Hindley house in
Gorton and once again Brady came up with a list to get rid of what he called forensic
Brady sponged the car inside and out he cut up his clothes and gave them to Hindley who threw them into the fire
both of them also threw their shoes into the fire along with the court when they finished Hindu Li drove Brady
back to Westmoreland Street they didn't spend the night together they saw each other again at Mill woods the next day
Kate's family didn't realize he was missing until the next morning faith never arrived at his grandmother's house
so she assumed he must have stayed at home and since neither he nor when he had a phone I couldn't check in with
each other at 8:30 a.m. Keith's grandmother walked the other children home and when he said where's
our Keith Keith's grandmother explained that he never arrived both women started the panic when he
went to Keith's school but when there's no sign of him man she called the police
Kate's younger brother Alan Bennett was devastated he somehow knew that Keith wasn't coming back he left the house and
went to the end of the street to the wall where he incase that painted goal posts he stayed there kicking the ball
against the wall for a long time at 5:00 p.m. that afternoon when Brady and Hinda
Lee finished work they went to Hindu Lee's house where Brady cleaned the car again just in case he missed something
afterwards he prepared a dark room in the house where he could develop his own pitches he developed the picture he had
taken of Keith and showed it to Hindley he told her he was going to destroy it because it was out of focus
Brady then went to the Manchester Central Railway Station to the suitcases he had left in the luggage storage
containing what he referred to as incriminating material Hindley said she never knew what was inside the suitcases
and could only assume she never attempted to open them because Bradley placed here over the locks a trick he
had read in a James Bond novel which worked as a warning that someone had opened it under the headline tracker
dogs join hunt for lost boy the Manchester Evening News described alongside the inner city area of
Manchester where Keith disappeared from as a dangerous area with several murders
and missing persons cases occurring there police focus their search around alongside and again went door to door
used search docks and did everything they could to locate case they paid particular attention to railway
buildings and tracks as Keith loved to trains like the other cases rumors started spreading and false sighting
reports were made to children said they had seen Keith the outside Longsight library the morning after he disappeared
other said Keith had run away the Keith's parents were adamant he hadn't just like Pauline and John there was no
reason for Keith to run away although police weren't making the link publicly Winnie had no doubt keeps disappearance
was linked to John kill bride's disappearance and she went to visit Sheila John's mother the media was
waiting and a picture of this meeting appeared under the headline missing boys and their two mothers who wait after
their first meeting Winnie and Sheila continued to meet up with each other occasionally when he also met Joan Reid
Pauline's mother when he went into labor prematurely and gave birth to a healthy
son Keith's grandmother constantly blamed herself for not saying anything sooner
about Keith never arriving at a house Keefe sisters kept asking where keith was and cried themselves to sleep case
stepfather Jimmy was targeted by police just like John's father was they inspected the house tore up floorboards
and checked everywhere for signs of foul play Jimmy was taken in for questioning
repeatedly Jimmy said he understood and wanted to cooperate however after a while it became too much and started to
put a heavy burden on his marriage when he confronted the police telling them quote do you think could have stayed
with my husband if I thought he had anything to do with Keith you're splitting my family up and if that
happens you'll have my death and the death of four kitties on your conscience because I'll kill myself and take them
with me the police did back off but soon after this when you were stopped in the street
by a woman who said your case mom aren't you do you know what happened to him he's been chopped up and fed to the pigs
those words haunted Winnie for a long time and it wasn't long before she started to lose all hope along with
their house-to-house inquiries police dragged a nearby Brook but came up empty on July 3rd 1964
Winnie was quoted in the Gorton and Openshaw reporter she said I'm very worried you know for the longer it is
off here there's less chance of him being found one week later the same newspaper ran an article about Pauline
read on the front page the headline read one year ago girl went dancing and disappeared newspapers ran a new appeal
for information about Pauline together with a TV broadcast by police while still giving coverage to the
disappearance of Keith Bennett but no useful information was gained another quote from Winnie my senses told me he
was dead but I just couldn't believe it and then one night when my new baby was about three months old I was feeding him
and half falling asleep while I was doing it and in my dreams estate I heard Keith call to me as clearly as anything
mum he shouted and then I knew for certain he was dead on Saturday the 15th of August 1964 two months after Keith's
murder Maureen Hindley Mira's sister married David Smith David Smith was born in
Manchester on the 9th of January 1948 his mother Joyce hull was in her late teens when she fell pregnant to John
Smith a 20 year old engineer they never married and when David was around 12 months old he was left in the care of
his grandparents Annie and John Smith senior as a little boy David was spoiled rotten by Annie his grandfather John
Cena gambled a lot his father John saw very little of him he travelled for work constantly and when he was home he did
try and spend quality time with David but never got it quite right into their relationship was a strained one David
attended Ross Place primary he spent most of his time with Annie who he called mum Annie told David she was a
nurse at Manchester Royal Infirmary but when he went to surprise visitor there one day he found out she was a cleaner
annie was ashamed but David didn't care he was still Annie he's a mum David the lovely be with his
grandparents but at the age of 8 David's father appeared in the middle of the night and took David to live with him in
Gorton while living with his father David was abused his abuser was the nephew of
another tenant who rented the house with David's father after that David started
rebelling he ended up in Magistrates Court facing a charge of assault and wounding after stabbing another boy he
was given probation that same year he started a Stanley Grove Secondary School where he entered the boxing club the
headmaster saw great potential in David's boxing ability he won several matches but after a wall wanted to quit
the headmaster tried to talk him out of quitting and during the conversation he talked negatively about David's father
David stood up for his dad and punched the headmaster straight in the nose it was expelled he then attended All
Saints school but that didn't last long either a fellow student called David a bastard
David responded by picking up a cricket bat and breaking the boy's fingers David's probation officer found out
about this incident and once again he was summoned to the Magistrates Court this time they sent him to Rose Hill
remand home he only stayed there for a short time but when he got out no school wanted to have him he finally
got accepted at st. change in Gorton he was 13 years old and he soon met a girl who had seen often around the streets of
Gordon Marine Hindley Maureen was two years older than David and of their relationship as a casual one at first
David remembers one time during the early part of their relationship Maureen said he had to come to her house to
intervene in a fight her sister Maura was having with their dad Bob David agreed to help but when he got there he
saw Mara hitting Bob fiercely she didn't need his help in 1963 and he died from cancer she's been battling it
for six months David was 15 he was actually on his way to visit her when someone stopped him in
the street and said do you know your mom is dead David ran to her house and saw that it was true David hid in an alley
and started crying Maureen found him and consoled him he realized at that moment that Maureen was
now the only person in the world he cared about David never went to Annie's funeral because it was too much for him
that summer David abandoned school when joined a local gang the Taylor Street gang they liked to break into people's
houses on July 8th 1963 David appeared before the magistrate's court again charged with breaking into and stealing
from both homes and local stores he was put on probation for a period of three years he was the talk of Gordon but the
talk about David lasted less than a week because four days after his court appearance Pauline Reade disappeared
david knew Pauline he met her when he first moved to Gorton when he was 8 years old
Pauline saw David sitting alone on the sidewalk one day and started talking to him a few years later they shared a
brief kiss David always thought the world of Pauline he considered her sweet and innocent and like many others he
couldn't understand how she vanished he only lived a few doors away from Pauline
so he was interviewed twice by police but he wasn't much help he didn't know anything after leaving school David
became an apprentice electrician that only lasted six or seven months before he left and became a labourer but that
didn't last long neither in March 1964 Maureen told him she was pregnant David said he would be there for her and they
decided to get married since in those days having a child outside of marriage was frowned upon
Maureen moved in with David and his father and on the 15th of August 1964 they tied the knot at All Saints
registry office in Manchester the only people in attendance were David's father uncle aunt and cousin
none of Maureen's relatives approved of the marriage not even Mara who she was so close to Mara didn't like David and
told Maureen her marriage to him was a mistake afterwards David and Maureen celebrated
as several pups there was no reception or honeymoon since they are very scarce on money Maureen was 18 years old and 7
months pregnant at the time David was 16 after they finished celebrating at the pubs that night
Maureen and David made their way home it wasn't long before those are knock at the door it was Myra Hindley who said
Ian would like a drink with you they were surprised that the invitation since they didn't attend the wedding and
Hindley was very much against their marriage and David from the beginning while David was dating Maureen in delete
old him I've tried to explain what an [ __ ] you are but for some reason she still wants to be with you so I'm
telling you now if you ever ever hurt her in any way you're a dead man do you get me a dead man this thing
between you will be tolerated but you better mind your back because every step of the way I'll be watching you David
Smith right every [ __ ] step you take Maureen and David agreed to the invitation they made their way to
Hindley's house and they were surprised things seemed different Hindley and Brady were both friendly
towards them David had only officially met Brady once before a few months earlier it was very brief and they
didn't really speak now at Hindley's house they were welcomed with a bottle of wine Brady had reserved to share with
them along with whisky the ambience was relaxed and David summarized the night with the following
words everybody was dressed up but no one was going anywhere it was civilized and two that impressed
me Hindery and maureen danced in the living room while they would join them occasionally and Brady made sure
everyone's classes stateful at one point during the night Brady said to David I believe you've got a record the next day
in Dooley appeared at David and Marines thoughts they began she invited them out
for a day at the lake they stopped there several pubs on the way there and on the
way back and about David and Brady got very drunk on the way home Brady rambled to David about capitalism
and the nonsense in working for a living David listened more than anything he was impressed that
Brady's generosity of that day ended the previous night and was thankful for the
wedding present this trip had represented at 1:00 a.m. they arrived at Hindley's house and continued drinking
until daylight from then on the four of them started getting together regularly Saturdays became fish-and-chip nights
and when I started getting late Hindley and Maureen would go upstairs to sleep leaving Brady and David alone in the
living room David started closely observing Hindley and Brady and at their relationship the first thing he noticed
was how much they loved animals especially dogs he also noticed how Brady didn't have any sort of fondness
towards anyone not even really Hindley your David thought he just seemed to accept he once saw Brady put an armory
on Tindall II when he was drunk but that was the only time he saw any public affection from him as for Hindley David
believed she cared for Brady very much he also knew how much Hindle he cared for Maureen and how close they were
but one person Hindley never cared for was David during their regular get-togethers she would be civil towards
him and even friendly at Toms but she was growing very jealous of the forming friendship between him and Brady
in September 1964 many gorton residents were relocated including Hindley and Graham who she still lived with they
moved to 16 waddle Brook Avenue in Hattersley 19 kilometers east of the city Brady
stayed over often and he placed a lock on him police door Hindley was happy about the move and decorated the house
buying various items to do it up between them Brady and Hindley earned 24 pounds
a week with that they paid for rent fuel for the car and motorcycle new furniture
and other items for the house and they were always going away for troops for the countryside or to Scotland they also
purchased the great deal of alcohol how they managed to fund all of it is unknown but they were living a more
upscale life than most in the area when Hindley went shopping she'd speak in a posh accent when she walked through the
streets of Hattersley she'd be selective about what people she spoke to one neighbor in waddle Brook Avenue Hindley
and Brady made friends with was paddy Masterton an 11 year old girl she stopped by at Henry's house looking for
her mum since the two houses were almost next to each other Hindley hadn't seen her mum but she
invited paddy inside paddy immediately took to puppet Hindley's dog and to Lassie Gran's dog in glee asked if she'd
like to go with her to get Brady paddy agreed when they got to Brady's house they had to wait outside
Brady made Hindley wait hour Swiper him since the start of their relationship he'd never introduced her to his mother
or stepfather when Brady got in the car Hindley introduced him to Paddy and to the three of them quickly became friends
paddy would often go to Hindley's house to watch television since she didn't have one at home
paddy wasn't the only child Brady and Hindley were friendly with either they were kind to several children in the
neighbourhood and Brady also got along well with his foster nephews he would visit them and hide money in their rooms
its presence they even took some of the kids in the neighbourhood to the Moors the one they took the most though was
paddy once when they were walking through the mall Brady told her if you're thirsty have a drink from that
Brook it's nice pure water the brook was next to John kill bride's burial so Elsie
Masterton Paddy's mother said this about Hindley she was the type I could have imagined forging anything but never to
do any harm to children because I thought a person who loved animals as much as she did would be incapable of
that and she made such a fuss of children neither Hindu Lee nor Brady ever explained to the forming of
friendships with some children while taking the lives of other children but Brady stated that sometimes adults like
to become friends with the young to escape the serious adult world in October 1964
Maureen gave birth to a daughter Angela dawn David proved to be a great father making a fuss of her every chance he got
that same month in Manchester's juvenile court David was put on a good behavior bond
for 12 months and fined six pounds for two cases of common assault but he was also able to find steady work to support
his family it was a time David looked back on as being happy Brady and Hindley didn't seem interested in Angela dawn at
all Hindley never held or paid any attention to her and Brady seemed uncomfortable around him one Friday
night Brady and Hindley visited David and Maureen at their home in Gorton Brady and David were outside getting
some fresh air after having drinks together while they were outside David saw Joan
and Amos read Pauline's parents they still only lived a few doors from him David wished them
good night and Joan said the same to him after Joan and Amos walked inside Brady said then the parents of that
missing girl David nodded Brady said so what's the story behind that what do you
think happened there they've been told him the rumors he'd heard that she had run off with a fairground worker or gone
to Australia Brady got very interested when David mentioned the police had asked him questions about her he wanted
to know exactly what they asked him they've been finished by telling Brady he didn't believe the rumors about
Pauline because she wasn't the type to run away he said to Brady she was quiet nice
not that sort of girl at all November 23rd 1964 was the one-year anniversary of John Kerr bride's disappearance and
Detective Chief Inspector Joseph Nancy renewed the investigation means he was promoted to Detective Chief
Inspector in Ashton underlined earlier that year he immediately started checking the backlog of unsolved cases
to see if there was anything worth looking into again he came upon John's case and called Sheila John's mother it
wasn't long before he agreed with her something awful had happened to John and Patrick her husband had nothing to do
with it Nancy started a campaign to see if you could uncover any new leads he reprinted the posters with John's
face made appeals on television and in newspapers asking for anyone with information to come forward
he also organized the reconstruction of John's disappearance of the market John was played by Danny his brother as they
looked a lot alike however no one came forward with new information means he was so determined to find John
that John became known as mounds he's led to the other offices at Ashton underlying police station on Christmas
Day 1964 bradying in Dooley took their 11-year old neighbor paddy to Saddleworth Moor to celebrate afterwards
they drove paddy home but then returned to the moor and spent the night while there they planned a new murder and this
time they wanted to do things differently they wanted to take the victim back to him to his house the next
morning Boxing Day 1964 six months after the murder of Keith Bennett Brady gave Hindley a new record girl don't come by
say be sure Hindley dropped her grand at her son's place into his uncle for Boxing Day celebrations while Hindle he
was driving grand NER Brady made preparations he set up his camera and lights inside him police room and placed
the reel-to-reel tape recorder under her bed Hindley had given Bradley the recorder for Christmas Hindley returned
after lunch and told Brady that she had arranged the pit gran up at 9:30 p.m. that afternoon while at a store they saw
posters advertising Silcox wonder fair which is exactly where they were headed but first they went grocery shopping and
filled up a couple of cardboard boxes then they drove to Hume Hall Lane near Manchester City Center and parked the
car in an empty side street they took the cardboard boxes overloaded with groceries with them they walked through
the fair until they saw a girl by herself staring at the bumper cars she seemed enthralled by them Brady and
Hindley stood behind her for several minutes at a distance to make sure she was alone
when no one came for her they made their approach the girl was ten year old Leslie and Donny Leslie lived in a new
council flat a 25 Charlie walk-in in coats close to Manchester City Centre she lived with her mother in her
mother's partner Allen West and three brothers ends marriage to Leslie's father Terrance Danny didn't work out and they
split up in early 1964 Terrance remarried but still saw his children often n meant Alan West a truck driver
or she was working as a waitress in Manchester Centre they fell in love and moved in together Leslie had wavy dark
hair in a bob stop she was an extremely shy girl but showed her true colors when
singing and dancing she had attended her first dance a few months prior with her
oldest brother Terry who was 14 and she had a crush on one of the being members who played that evening
Terry noticed and asked for a lock of the boys hair which Leslie kept safe inside a box in her room Leslie had a
close group of friends at school and was very fond of animals especially her dog
rebel on Christmas morning Leslie had gotten a nurse's costume a doll several board games and her favorite a small
electric sewing machine at Trinity Methodist Church children were offered the chance to have their presents
blessed and after breakfast Leslie took the sewing machine with it that Boxing Day morning when Leslie woke up she
found a new pair of presence on top of a dressing table a necklace of white beads
and a matching bracelet they were from her brother Terry who had visited Silcox wonder fair and had won them for her at
the shooting gallery the fair was less than one kilometer from their home Leslie put the necklace and bracelet on
straight away then she spent the morning playing with her new toys her mother in
promised she'd show her how to sew dresses for her two favorite dolls Patsy and Lynn later that day shortly before 4
p.m. Leslie put on a coat and left the flat with her younger brother Tommy who was 8 they'd arranged to go to Silcox
wonder fair with mrs. Clark who lived downstairs Leslie was good friends with mrs.
Clark's daughter's in particular Linda Clark but when Leslie and Tommy knocked on the door mrs. Clark said she was too
tired to go so instead all of the children went on their own but they had to be back home by 5:00 p.m.
and 4:00 p.m. all of the children had run out of money plus as I was supposed to be back home anyway
they left the fair and started walking home but on the way Leslie stopped and said I'm going back
she turned around and ran back to the fair before any of the other children could say anything at 6:00 p.m. a boy
who went to school with the Leslie saw her at the bumper cars he didn't notice pretium Hindley who were at a distance
watching her waiting a few minutes after 6:00 Brady and Hindley approached to Leslie
they were still carrying the cardboard boxes filled with groceries and deliberately spilled a few items next to
Leslie Lesley turned around and looked at them Hindley gave her a smile and asked Leslie if she wouldn't mind
helping them carry the boxes back to their car Hindley promised the reward for helping
and Leslie agreed when they got to the car Hindley asked Leslie if she would mind helping them take the boxes home
Leslie agreed and got into the front passenger seat Hindley and brady carefully put the boxes around to Leslie
so she was blocked from view then they drove to English house in Hattersley when they walked inside the house at 16
WaterBrook Avenue in Dooley Todd Leslie to take the boxes upstairs Brady was already up there waiting in Hindley's
room Brady turned on the tape recorder - lots of footsteps were heard entering the room Leslie and Hindley they tried
to get Leslie to put a handkerchief in her mouth to gag her Leslie asked to go home she told them she didn't want to
get undressed they'll put the handkerchief in her mouth Brady said they just wanted to take some
photographs and as soon as she did as she was told as soon as she could go home Leslie knew something awful was
happening and kept refusing the gag Hindley can be heard on the tape same shut up or I'll forget myself and hit
you one keep it in brady is heard saying put it in if you don't keep that hand down I'll slit your throat put it in the
recording ended with little drummer boy playing in the background and three layout cracks the cracks were from brady
opening up the tripod and setting up his camera the tape recording was stopped because there was only one socket in the
room and brady needed it for the photography light when they were done in Dooley ran a bath for Leslie at Brady's
request he wanted to remove any dog hairs or other fibers Brady carried Leslie to the bathroom she had been
strangled with a piece of cord Hindley claims Leslie was killed by Brady while she was running the bath
Brady's account is different in his version he says Hindley is the one who killed Leslie using the piece of cord to
strangle her he said Hindley then kept the court and pulled it out and played with it in public
enjoying the secret knowledge of what it had been useful after washing Leslie's body
Brady wrapped her in the blood-stained bedsheet and carried her to the car there was 8 p.m. p.m. Hindley headed for
the mall but the weather had turned it was snowing heavily and they noticed cars sliding on the road they decided to
turn around and drive back to Hattersley they still had to pick up grant - Brady
couldn't believe Hindley wanted to pick her up while they still had Leslie's body in the car
so Hindley came up with another idea she knocked on her uncle's door and told him
she couldn't take grant home because the roads were too bad her uncle wasn't happy but Hindley left without grant she
drove back home and Brady carried those loose body into the house and put it back onto Hindley's bed he set up his
darkroom and developed the photographs they listened to the tape together or they looked at the photos Hindley begged
Brady to destroy a door once he was done they finished the night caught up together in the sofa bed in front of the
fire Hindley stated quote that Christmas became the anniversary of many bad memories not least of all the killing of
little Lesley Ann which gives me the deepest shame meanwhile Leslie's family was becoming desperate
when Leslie turned around and went back to the fair alone her brother Tommy continued on home secretly he was hoping
Leslie changed her mind or was playing a joke and should be back there waving phim but she wasn't their mother in
asked tell me what happened when he told her and her partner Alan immediately went to the fair to look for Leslie they
started running back and forth between the fair and the flat looking for her everywhere shouting her name they
searched for hours they stopped in at the Clarks flat where hands screamed at mrs. Clark for not going with the
children they then went to Mill Street police station to report her disappearance early the next morning
Brady carried Leslie's body back to the car he and Hindley drove to Saddleworth Moor
Brady got out and cautiously looked around checking to make sure no one else was present he then walked off with
Leslie's body they drove home to Hindley's and Brady watched the Spade before making breakfast they then went
and picked up Grant that evening the local news was reporting Leslie's disappearance and detectives who are
searching the fair interviewing every single visitor and fairground worker they also checked empty houses abandoned
factories and farms in the area two days after the murder the Manchester Evening
News ran an all-too-familiar headline tracker dogs joined giant search for girl Mill Woods opened back up for
business on Tuesday the 29th of December Brady and Hindley returned to work and their boss Tom found a strange that
Brady repeatedly asked him about his daughter her name was also Leslie Ann for New Year's Eve 6000 posters with
Leslie's photo had been printed in 5000 fliers were handed out in pubs cafes and
shops Leslie's family helped distribute the posters and flyers New Year's Eve is
spent very differently for Brady and Hindley they partied with David Maureen and Hindley's parents Bob and Nellie
Brady supplied the alcohol and seemed especially happy he went as far as kissing Maureen on the cheek to wish her
good luck in the new year and he even stroked baby Angela Dawn's hair on New Year's Day 1965 the Gorton
anokhin sure recorder dedicated most of its front page to Leslie with the headline
have you seen 10 year-old Leslie big search for lost girl Pauline read John killbride and Keith Bennett were also
mentioned in the same article Hindley bought the newspaper and later that morning their 11 year old neighbor
Patty visited them Hindley handed the newspaper to Patty and asked her if she'd like to read it
patty saw the headline and mentioned that Leslie lived near a friend of hers Hindley asked her about Leslie and Brady
had his tape recorder on during the conversation he and Hindley kept the tape one more of their souvenirs through
the first weeks of January 1965 an intense search continued police officers went to schools and warned children of
our stranger danger like the fathers and stepfathers in the other cases Allen West was interviewed several times their
flat was turned upside down but he was eventually ruled out as a suspect n kept in Leslie's room exactly like a
daughter had left it she also went to the police station at least twice a week to see if there was any sort of
breakthrough she told the press quote it's a nightmare I can't sleep or eat if I
close my eyes I can see her orbit I'm in the third week of January 1965 Ann made
a new appeal through the Gorton and open Shore reporter stating to whoever is holding my Leslie if only they knew the
agony that myself and my family are going through her little brothers keep asking when she's coming home I plead
with all the mothers never to let their children out of their sight because they
do not know the heartbreak of losing them until that happens Terry Leslie's older brother added whoever is holding
out Leslie please look after her because she will be very sad and ill being away
from mum former Prime Minister of England Winston Churchill died on the 24th of January 1965 Brady hated him for
helping putting an end to the Third Reich he bought a bottle of a dream viewing to celebrate with
and David Hindley fully agreed with Brady stating the best thing Churchill did for Britain was dying Maureen and
David didn't exactly agree but they still celebrated with them David found Brady's intellect impressive but he
still teased him for being what he called a real square when it came to musical tastes Hindu Lee was getting
increasingly jealous of David and how he could make Brady laugh and relax in ways
she couldn't in February 1965 Maureen mentioned that in less of his mother had offered the reward of 100 pence to
anyone who could provide useful information about Leslie Maureen ended with the line her mother must think a
lot of the child Hindu it cracked up laughing during the investigation into Leslie and Downey's disappearance police
would eventually interview 6,000 people and false sightings of Leslie came in from everywhere from Blackpool to
Belgium in April 65 Hindley sold her car and bought a MINI Countryman which had the same features a previous car folding
back seats that gave you ample space in the rear that month Hindley and Brady travelled the Scotland again they
invited Pattie with them but Paddy's mother said no when they returned from Scotland
Brady moved into Hindley's place at 16 waddle Brook Avenue had as Lee permanently a few weeks later he saw
paddy climbing over a wall at the side of the house he accused her of trying to get into their garden and told her that
if he ever caught her again he'd break her back paddy never spoke to Brady or Hindley
again after that on April 25th 1965 Angela Dawn Maureen and David's daughter died of bronchitis she was six months
old David was working when he was told to go to hospital because Maureen was there he
didn't think it could be anything serious when he got there he was ushered into a room and told his daughter had
died David couldn't understand it since he had been playing with her that morning Angela dawn was laughing and
seemed happy and healthy David was left alone in the hospital room and he ended up destroying it he
then went home packed a suitcase full of his daughter's clothes and belongings and threw it down a railway in Bateman
Maureen David and Hindley's mother Nellie went to tell Brady and him to leave the news
they were watching TV at the time Brady's reaction was complete annoyance at having his viewing interrupted so
Hindley walked them all out of the house so Brady could continue watching TV in peace Maureen and David knew they
couldn't stay in the house where they raised Angela gone David went to his grandfather's house in Hardwick where he
spent part of his early childhood and Maureen moved back to Nellie's house in Gordon Hindoo Liam Brady attended the
funeral which was held with an open casket when Hindley saw Angela dawn tears spilled from her eyes she
immediately cleaned them up and asked Maureen and David not to tell Brady David couldn't understand why Hinda Lee
crying at her nieces funeral would be a problem for Brady he left the two sisters alone and walked
outside for a cigarette Brady was outside sitting in the car David was even more confused when Brady
completely ignored him two days after the funeral though Brady in Hindu he picked up David and Maureen and took
them to the mall where they spent the day drinking when it got dark Brady asked David to go for a walk with him
while they were gone Hindley told Maureen to stop crying about losing Angela dawn and to buy yourself a dog
Brady took David for a walk and after a while told him to stop and stare up at the moon David did so and they remained
at that spot for about ten minutes Brady then broke the silence and said they should get back to the car the spot
our steaming was where John Kilbride was buried Brady and Hindley continued taking David and Maureen out often
including more trips to Saddleworth Moor Maureen and David were thankful for those outings to help distract them from
losing Angela dawn although they often wondered why Brady got so angry if other people were at Saddleworth Moor or why
he always had to find specific spots every time they went on July 23rd 1965 in delete' earned 23 and Maureen and
David moved into a new council flat in Hadley only a few hundred meters away from Hindley Brady and grand David and
Brady became even closer Brady started giving David books to read the same ones had shared with Hindley except with
David that worked differently David would read the books and write notes about them either quoting them or making
his own assertions from the philosophy shed in each one he would then share his notes and thoughts with Brady
David was only 17 years old and he looked up to Brady he saw him as older far more intellectual and someone who
could teach him David said that before the death of Angela thorne Brady's rents never got to him he was forever going on
about Hitler the Nazi Party politics and society in general David listened to him talk but he never
took any of it in but after the death of Angela Dawn he had up every word of what
Brady said Dave Envisat and Brady almost every day at 16 waddle Brook Avenue sometimes Hindu Lee would refuse to let
him in telling him Brady was busy other times she would make him wait across the
road until Brady was available when she flicked the lights on and off that was the sign that David could go in
in August 65 Brady asked David if he would like to rob a bank it wasn't the first time Brady had made this proposal
but it was the first time David listened previously David had ignored Brady and changed the subject but now he needed
money so they made a plan to rob the Williams and Glen's Bank located on Ashton old road 14 kilometers away from
Hadley Hindley would be the driver and Brady and David would take care of the rest
David's assignment was to take notes of arrivals and departures from the bank paying particular attention to when the
cash van arrived David spent an entire day outside the bank taking notes when he gave them to Brady he barely glanced
to them he then put them aside like they weren't important that was as far as their bank robbery got one night soon
after they were having a drink together and during the session Brady pointed a gun at David he said this is how easy it
is to kill look at me then look at the gun look at the [ __ ] gun David was petrified and looked at the
gun Brady continued talking looking to the hole of the gunman you're not going to see it coming blink and you won't
even know I've shot you look at the [ __ ] gun you're about to die a second later Brady pulled the trigger but it
wasn't loaded Brady said that's how easy it is Dave you just have to press the [ __ ] trigger at the end of August
Maggie and Patrick Brady's mother and stepfather moved from their house in Westmoreland Street and on September
18th Brady and Hindley travelled back to Scotland in Glasgow he would walk through the streets and photographed
strangers for no apparent reason at one point they crossed the child walking alone in kyndley looked at him and asked
don't you want to do another one Brady replied he'd never killed one of his own Hindley was worried she thought
Brady had been acting strangely revealing too much to David slowly letting him into their inner sanctum on
October 2nd 1965 during another drinking session Brady said to David what's wrong with killing somebody if
you're prepared to accept responsibility for your actions he continued that the victim's family had a right to kill you
afterwards if they wanted because that was only fair he told David that God doesn't exist because if he did he
wouldn't have let Angela dawn daughter he then said listen to me I've killed I've done it I know what
it's like Brady could see David didn't believe him and said do you think I'm lying don't you do you think I'm a lying
[ __ ] but it's been done I've killed more than once but you don't believe me maggots they're all [ __ ] maggots
David raised these eyebrows and Brady tried again to convince him I've got photographic proof and you've
sat on one of the graves Brady started rambling that the right way to do it was to choose people over the age of 16
because police didn't give as much importance to them and if possible try and choose victims who were Jewish or
gay Brady specifically mentioned targeting Manchester central railway station along
with gay bars to find victims he also told David you should place a plastic sheet in the car take notes of
everything and kill the person in a place where you have full control Brady finished with the words it will be done
again David didn't believe a word of what he said on Wednesday October 6 1965 ten months after the murder of Leslie
and Danny Brady gave Hindley a new record it's all over now baby blue by joan baez
they went to work finishing at 5:00 p.m. when they got home Brady walked the dogs and then they got
ready to go out they left home at 8:00 p.m. Hindley drove them in Chester Central
Railway Station and let Brady out she stayed with the car but didn't pay for parking a police officer knocked on her
window Hindley explained that she was waiting for her boyfriend who was inside at the
bar and she'd be leaving soon the officer gave her a warning and said that if she wasn't gone by the time he came
back he at the station Brady went to the bar he tried to open the door a few times until
a teenage boy approached him and told him it was closed the boy was 17 year old Edward Evans
Edward lived at 55 Addison Street in Hardwick which was due for demolition the following year he lived with his
mother Edith his father John and a brother and sister since May that year he'd been working as a junior machine
operator he worked hard and after work he liked to go to bars with friends he was tall slim and had a light brown hair
a friend of Edwards described him as sociable with a smart sense of dress Edward was also very keen on football
and was an avid fan of Manchester United going to watch them often at Old Trafford the team's home stadium Edwards
parents often worried about him as he went out most nights but he reassured them I can handle any trouble Edward was
at work during the day of Wednesday October 6th when he finished his shift he went home and told his parents who'd
be going to a pub in town with a friend he had dinner then went to his room and changed into a white shirt jeans brown
suede shoes and his favourite jacket before leaving home at 6:15 p.m. Edward went to auntie's bar on Oxford Road his
friend had never turned up so he had a drink and then left he headed over this Central Station two kilometers away he
tried getting into the bar there but found out it was closed he hung around outside for a little while and that's
when he saw Brady trying the door after Edward told Brady of the bar was closed they got chatting Edward said there was
nowhere else to go to get a drink so Brady invited him back to his place in Hattersley
Edward accepted his invitation Bradley walked Edward back to the car and introduced him to Hindley he called him
Eddie he told Eddie Hindley was his sister Hindley then drove them back to 16 waddle Brook Avenue when they got inside
Brady told Hindley to go get David to join them for a drink at 11:15 p.m. the buzzer went off at Maureen and David's
flat they were both in bed and Maureen got up to answer Maureen let Hindley in and David got out of bed as well
indle he said she can to give Maureen a message to tell their mother Nelly she'd
see her on the weekend not before because she didn't have time Maureen was totally confused and asked why the [ __ ]
she had gotten him out of bed to tell them that Hindley said she just wanted to make
sure she passed the message on before she forgot she then asked David to walk her home since it was so dark and late
David agreed and took his stick with him that had string tied around the end when
they got to 16 waddle Brook Avenue Hindu Lee told David to stay on the other side
of the road and wait for the lights inside the flick twice before going into the house David agreed and waited a
moment later the light flick twice and David went to the front door Brady answered and asked in an unusually
loud voice do you want those miniatures David was confused but nodded his head Brady led him inside and walked him to
the kitchen which was directly opposite the front door Brady gave him three miniature bottles of one and asked do
you want the rest David again nodded not exactly sure what was going on Brady then disappeared from the kitchen
and David waited two minutes later David heard a scream seconds later there was another screen then another before he
heard Hindley yell Dave helped him David ran to the living room where the screams were coming from the screams he
heard came from Edward Evans who had his legs sprawled out on the floor and his back against the sofa bed looking up
Brady was standing over him hitting him with an axe over and over again while screaming at him
[ __ ] [ __ ] dirty bastard Edward tried to crawl to a nearby table to hide underneath but Brady grabbed his legs
and dragged him back out he kept hitting him with the ax during the attack that dogs walked in the living room and Brady
screamed at Hindley get the [ __ ] dogs away from the blood Brady then knelt down and strangled Edward when he was
done Brady stood up looked at his hands covered in blood a little bit Hindley and said that's it the messiest one yet
David couldn't move it was paralyzed with fear until Brady suddenly walked over and handed him the ax he said feel
the [ __ ] weight of that how did he take it David grabbed the ax and smiled replying
[ __ ] me I don't know Brady smiled back at David before a new scream interrupted
them it was grand he'd been sleeping upstairs in her room she wanted to know what all the noise was a beer he knew he
called out that she dropped something on it foot then she noticed that Brady's ankle was actually badly hurt she asked
if he was alright Brady said he was fine and he must have accidentally hit himself with the ax at some point he
told Hindley to bring in the cleaning stuff while he knew he was gone he told David there was a hole in the wall by
the fireplace that had been left by the axe after it hit Edwards head he asked David the Galant feelin a moment later
Brady knelt down on top of Edward again and went through his clothes while he was doing so David watched and noticed
that Edwards pants were open and unzipped Bridey found a wallet opened it and started reading aloud to David Edward
Evans apprentice at associated electrical industries limited traffic park the [ __ ] his name was Edward Evans
Eddie do you know him dave is the same age as you in his romantic as well do you know David said he didn't Hindu Lee
returned with a plastic sheet and a blanket the three of them first listened for any commotion outside from
neighbours in case they had heard Edward screams when they didn't hear anything they covered Edwards body in total
Edward had received 14 blows from the axe brady said he wanted the tie up edward but didn't have any rope david
offered him the string that was attached to his stick brady grabbed it and got david that helped him tie him up brady
instructed david on what to do they put his legs up against his chest so he was in the fetal position
they then wrapped him in a blanket when they finished they stopped for a cigarette while hindu lee prepared
everything to clean the room brady said to david we'll finish up in here and then get a cup of tea dnsa how
does that sound Brady said they'd have to leave Edwards body in inglese room for the night with
the help of David they half lifted half drag they'd would up the stairs while intially made sure Greene's door stayed
closed well though doing so Brady cracked a joke saying Eddie's a dead weight in glee started
laughing and although he didn't find it funny David thought he better laugh - in
his room they placed Edward beneath the window Brady stared down at his body before
placing some books on top of him the three of them cleaned up the blood from the living room with wet pieces of cloth
David couldn't get past the smell of death that covered the entire place he playfully hit David with one of the wet
blood-soaked cloths at one point Brady started playing with the ax again before putting it away in its carrier back once
they finished they sat together and had a cup of tea just as Brady had said they
would Brady asked Hindley Myra how did he take that what do you think intially answered I don't know love but
you could see the blow register in his eyes Brady asked how they would carry the body to the car since he had hurt
his ankle pretty badly David came up with a solution he said they could put him in Angela Dawn's pram Brady and
Hindley both laughed at the idea but considered it a good one Hindley offered David another cup of tea and he said no
he should get back home before Maureen got suspicious before leaving David said okay then I'll be off but see you both
later on Hindley responded with a smile yes Dave you will they've been left for 16 Waddle Brook Avenue at 3:00 a.m. he
believed the Brady and Hindley might still be watching him so he remained calm and walk casually until he got out
of sight he then sprinted home David had been acting telling Brady and Hindley what they wanted to hear he said the
only reason he helped them clean up that night is because he believed he would be
murdered unless he went along with it he wasn't wrong neither Brady had suggested
killing David only one month earlier Brady said he was tired of David's domestic problems David and Maureen had
been fighting because Maureen was pregnant again David thought it was too soon after Angela Dawn's death Brady saw
David's relationship with Maureen as a flaw in his character and something that would eventually ruin his plans so he
told Hindley they should get rid of him Brady even planned how he would do it take him for a drive and blow his head
off however it was Hindley who talked radio out of it as she didn't want to do that to her sister
when David got back to his flat that morning he ran straight to the bathroom and threw up Maureen heard him and knelt
by side assuming he had drunk too much alcohol but David told her he hadn't been drinking he walked to the living
room and told Maureen to sit down he told her the story he didn't go into the final details but just enough to let her
know he had witnessed the murder Maureen was confused and started asking if her sister was all right David said she's
all right but she's part of it didn't you hear me girl she's part of it Maureen was still
very confused by what she was hearing and began crying David waited a few minutes before telling her that as soon
as it was daylight and there was movement in the street they gone found the police from the nearby phone box
they left their flat just after 6:00 a.m. October 7th 1965 David took a knife in the screwdriver with him for
protection the nearest telephone box was a block away on hair' Hill Road David died
triple nine and the call was logged at 6:07 a.m. when the operator asked why one of the police david answered that it
was an emergency and did explain when they got there the operator agreed to send them david and maureen hid behind a
fence while they waited david called again a few minutes later to make sure they were still coming when the police
car turned up the officer was shocked when david and maureen sprinted towards him and made a friend to get tempt to
open the doors the doors were locked so they couldn't get in the officer eventually come them down and allowed
them into the car he secured the knife and the screwdriver david was carrying before driving them to hide police
station at the station they were given a cup of tea the officer who picked them up asked David what happened David at
first stayed quiet unable to say anything until he was able to get the words out it's murder he started telling
the story to the officer and when he was done the officer asked him if the body was
still there David nodded and said it was upstairs the officer then left the room
the officer made a call to his supervisor the supervisor arranged for Detective Sergeant alex car and
superintendent Robert Talbot to speak to David and Maureen they took a statement
off David and although they had their doubts about his story they went to Hattersley to check it out
Talbot when in one vehicle Detective Sergeant car and officer in Fairley went in another vehicle two other vehicles
were used the block off the street David was taking him one of those they arrived
that 16 Waddle Brook Avenue about 8:00 a.m. a bread delivery van was driving through the street as they arrived and
Telmex stopped the driver to ask him if he could borrow his white coat and a basket of bread the driver agreed
Talbert disguised himself as the bread delivery man and walked to the rear of the house and knocked on the back door
Hindley answered she gave him a strange look since she didn't buy that particular brand of Brett Talbot asked
him Burleigh is your husband in Hinda Lee responded I haven't got a husband Talbot put down the breadbasket took off
the white coat and said I'm a police superintendent and I have reason to believe that there is a man in this
house Hindley denied there was any man inside Taylor said he had reason to believe she
was lying and walked in as soon as he walked in Hindley gave up a story and said he's in the other room
Karan Fairley entered the house through the front doors Talbot walked through the back door they found Brady sitting
on the sofa in the living room writing a letter Hindley had this to say about that moment I'll never forget his face
when I took the police into the living room the morning after the murder of Edward Evans it was expressionless as it
often was but I saw him almost shrink before my eyes hopeless and powerless that was all over
Talbot told Brady they were investigating a report of an act of violence that had occurred in the house
the night before Brady remained silent and stared at them it was Hindley who spoke saying there's nothing wrong here
Talbot said he wanted to inspect the house Hindley didn't object Hindley led Talbot
upstairs they first went into Gran's room brenn wanted to know what the police were there
Hindley said she would bring her a cup of tea later and explain Talbot found nothing out of the ordinary in Gran's
room Hindley then led Talbot into the bathroom where he again found nothing when they got to Hindu Lee's room the
door was locked he knew Lee explained she kept it locked because she's thought firearms in there
and she couldn't open it because the key was in her office at Mill woods they walked back downstairs
Talbot said they couldn't leave until they inspected Hinda Lee's room he asked Brady if he had a key
Brady remains silent Hindley answered for him it's at work tell they told him you need to put a coat on she was going
with them to Mill Woods to get the key he refused talbert ordered Farrelly to escort Hindley to Mill woods but Fairley
had another suggestion just kick the door in Talbot looked at Brady after fairly
suggested this Brady still said nothing fairly said again kicking the door Hindley saw they
weren't getting out of it she looked at Brady and said you better tell them Brady stood up and spoke for the first
time he explained that he had a fight with Eddie the night before and things got out of hand his body was in Hinda
Lee's room he told Hindley to give them the case she had in her purse Talbot and
car entered Hindley's room and saw Edwards body still wrapped up in the blanket with a pile of books on top the
axe was next to his body in the carrier bag they went back to the living room and told Brady they'd seen the body and
he would be going with them to hide police station for further questioning car started cautioning Brady that he
didn't have to say anything but Brady interrupted him yes I know he was then officially placed under arrest
Talbot inspected him to his room further and found two guns which were fully loaded Brady had always planned that if
they ever got caught they'd have a shootout with police but the police had caught them off guard and the guns were
locked away when they turned up Hindley wasn't arrested but she wanted to go to the police station with Brady
Talbot told her that would be unnecessary but Hindley insisted so Talbot arranged for her to be taken in a
separate car arrangements were also made for Grant to be sent elsewhere with her
dog Lassie while the police continued their investigation in delete took her dog puppet with her and walked outside
with Brady Brady was able to whisper in her ear against the world now Brady was handcuffed around one wrist and the
other cuff was secured around officer Fairley's wrist neighbors started gathering outside to see what was going
on and then a car drove past it was the police car that David was in Brady and Hindley both saw him Brady smiled and
nodded Hindley gave David a look of hatred inside the car one of the officers asked
David is that then David nodded that's them Brady was taken to an interview room with KarenT fairly Brady repeated
what he had said at the house it was just a fight that got out of hand he agreed to make a full statement he said
he met Edward in Manchester where they had a few drinks before returning to his house him Hattersley things got out of
hand at the house and do they ended up in a fight David arrived while fighting and he ended up hitting Edward with his
stick and kicking him Brady had hurt his ankle during the fight and when Edward went to attack him again he picked up
the axe and hit Edward with it to protect himself when he realized that he had killed Edward they tied him up
carried him upstairs and then cleaned up all of the blood they cleaned on getting
rid of his body the next morning but the police arrived Brady made sure to emphasize that Hindley didn't
participate at all he stated we tied up the body Dave and I nobody else helped [Music]
that afternoon Hindley was taken into an interview room the first question they asked her was this morning a man's body
was found in your house who is that person until he responded I don't know and I'm not saying anything asked Ian my
story's the same as Ian's but the police continued asking questions Hindley told them that they
had all gone to the Moors the previous night which was already different to Brady's Manchester story police would
you care to tell me what happened at your house last night Hindley all I'm saying is that I didn't
do it and Dean didn't do it we're involved in something we didn't do we never left each other we never do what
happened last night was an accident it should never have happened police an accident if what you say is
true it's in your interest to tell the truth of what did happen Hindley shook her head asking my story
is the same as his what are they going to do within because what he has done I have done police do you understand how
serious this is Hindley I understand but I know this allegation came from David Smith who is
a lawyer and probably testified he saw everything but didn't police how did Edward come to be inside your home
Hindley I've told you before I'm not saying anything Emily's interrogation ended at 4:30 p.m.
by that time Edwards mother Edith was at hide police station to identify her son's body she left in tears she crossed
paths with Hindley on the way out detective car was recently at the time and said she was totally lacking in
emotion she never showed any remorse at any time when I spoke to her she was hard and evil pathologist Charles st.
Hill first inspected Edwards body in Hindu Lee's room the books that Brady placed on his body were the red brain a
collection of horror tales among women only a collection of post-war tales from Italy and to the road ahead a collection
of children's poetry saying he'll noted that all about words features had been distorted beyond
recognition his trousers were unfastened and in one of his pockets there was a letter from a girl named Wendy Wendy had
written a friend of hers was interested in a friend of Edwards so two please ask
him out for her she also told Edward she missed him and hoped he would be visiting sometime soon
above her signature she gave lots of kisses an entire team of officers combed through the house looking for evidence
they found samples of hair blood clothing two tape recorders with tapes hundreds of photographs and negatives a
tarp and photo album two loaded guns bullets in a cardboard box and two the carrier bag containing the acts that it
killed Edward the letter that Brady had been writing in the living room when police entered was addressed the Tom
Brady's & Kimberly's boss at Mill woods it was writing that he had a bad ankle after an accident on his motorbike and
he would have to see a doctor at 6:30 p.m. Detective Chief Superintendent Arthur
Ben field arrived at the house Ben field was head detective of Cheshire County which hide police station was part of at
the time Ben field had already been at the house that morning but returned to make sure nothing had been overlooked
other officers were still combing through the house and hadn't gotten to in Billy's car yet Ben field searched
the car and found a wallet inside the wallet were three sheets of paper written on the paper were Brady's
instructions on how to clean up after the murder to get rid of forensic Brady had used abbreviations and code words
but Ben field still recognized that as a blueprint for murder Ben field took the
sheets of paper with him back to hide police station and showed them to Brady Brady's response was to ask about
Hindley but Ben field pressed him about what was written on the paper Brady admitted he'd written it but said
he did so after Edwards murder Ben field asked him about their abbreviations and
codes Brady cleared some of them up but lied about others Ben fields last question was why Brady had written guns
on the list when the murder was committed with an ax Brady said four if anybody had seen us burying the body the
guns were herself detection Benfield ended he's interview with Brady at 8:20 p.m. and then charged
him with the murder of Edward Evans Brady was given a charge form on which he wrote I stand on the statement I made
this morning he signed it and was then taken to the basement cells for their not after charging Brady Benfield went
for Hindley Hindley had been waiting in the station's canteen since her interview ended earlier that afternoon
she had been visited by her mother Nellie and her uncle who pleaded with her to tell the truth an early police
theory was that Hindley was a sex worker and Brady killed Edward because he refused the paid they took her clothes
for inspection as well as samples of her saliva blood and hair the samples showed
that she shared the same blood group as Edward when Benfield entered the canteen
and approached Hindley he was straight to the point would you like to say anything about the murder
Hindley no not until you let me say in Benfield he's been charged with murder and will
be in court tomorrow morning in Burleigh then I'll be in court and I'll see you after I've seen Ian Benfield letter go
but told her she couldn't return to 16 waddle Brook Avenue since the house was still being examined
Hindley asked where Brady would be spending the night when Banfield answered in a cell it was the first time
Hindley's heart expression changed the one over worried as Hindu Lee left the station with Nellie they crossed paths
with David and Maureen Nelion Hindley gave them both a look of hatred Nelly considered what Maureen had done to her
sister as betrayal to the family David and Maureen had been questioned the entire day and night David's name
actually appeared as part of Brady's disposal plan on the three sheets of paper David said he had no idea why
Brady included him he had never seen the sheets of paper before at her mother's house Hindu Lee read the Manchester
Evening News and saw there was a column on the front page that already talked about her the headline read body found
in house murder and mentioned her in Gran's name but he didn't mention Brady's name at 10 a.m. the next day
Friday October 8 1965 Brady appeared at Hyde match straights court the Manchester Evening
News reported the event as follows at a three minute hearing a man was charged with the murder of Edward Evans as he
left the dock he nodded at a blonde the woman friend after Brady's first brief court appearance Hindley went to hide
police station with their dog puppet she asked to see Brady and asked if she could have a car back both requests were
denied while all this was going on detectives were trying to find out more Talbot and Benfield concentrated on
Edward trying to work out if he had a connection to Brady they spoke to Edwards family and friends showing them
a picture of Brady but no one recognized him detective Farrelly went to mill words to
search Brady and Hinda Lee's office and to interview their co-workers he didn't learn much from them other than Brady
and Hindley kept mostly to themselves in his statement David Smith said that Brady bragged he had killed before the
murder of Edward Evans and had specifically mentioned that taking people from Manchester to the Moores
Manchester police searched through missing person cases and found three that jumped out of them Pauline Reade
Keith Bennett and to Leslie and Downey John killbride was taken from Ashe than underline that was part of a different
jurisdiction Lancashire County say Manchester police didn't link it Detective Chief Inspector John Terrell
from Manchester City police visited height police station to learn more about Ian Brady on the morning of
Saturday October 9th Hindley returned to hide police station in another attempt to see Brady Ben
field grabbed her and took her into his office he asked her more questions but all Hindley would say is and didn't do
it and I didn't do it Ben field asked then who did it Hindley answered I'm not saying nothing
until I've seen Ian's solicitor a meeting was arranged with the solicitor for Monday and Hindley left the station
Hindley went to a launderette and a vent to her office in Mill woods her boss Tom
arrived a little later he told Hindley Brady would never be allowed to enter Mill woods again but she could keep her
job Hindley actually requested to be let go since she could claim the doll later that
Saturday the investigation changed for good Fairley was going through a notebook belonging to Brady they found
at sixteen Waddle Brook Avenue on one of the pages that contain the names of actors and other characters he saw a
name that jumped out at him John Kilbride fairly immediately remembered John as the boy who had gone missing
from Ashland market back in November 1963 ash then underlined police were immediately notified Detective Chief
Inspector Joe Mansi couldn't get there quick enough he went through Brady's notebook and then asked the Spector
David Smith who had been questioned over 10 hours each day since Brady's arrest David was being taken back and forth
between Hyde police station and Manchester Police Station he had also done a reenactment of the killing and
cleanup at 16 Waddle Brook Avenue David felt no one believed him and he was being treated more as a suspect than as
a witness that all changed with me on C's arrival David believe demands that you listen to
him and instead of having immediate suspicion of him like the others he displayed patience and understanding
after speaking to David my auntie asked to inspect the photographs found in the house he thought some of them didn't
seem right as though our pictures of mostly dirt one that stood out in particular to me
as he was of Hindley's car next to black rocks on the moor he remembered David mentioning bodies being buried on the
moor so me ons he said we'll do what Brady did bloody well dig his superior at Ashland underline agreed but Benfield
thought it was a needle in a haystack job since the mort's was an area of 400 square miles the search of the Moors
began on Sunday October 10th at 1:30 p.m. Nancy and Talbot took David and Maureen and drove to the Moors they went
to Woodhead as they believed that was a possible burial location since in Brady's disposal plan he had written w/h
when they go there means he gave David a selection of photographs he had picked out but he believed were possible
pointers to burial sites David studied them then passed them to Maureen to see if she recognized
something but neither of them were able to point out a specific place so police started searching randomly Manzi was
determined to find John as we know John had been nicknamed mounds he's led by officers had asked an underlying police
station he notified John's family about the discovery of his name in Brady's notebook musi spent countless hours
searching the more he was trying to match the photos to the specific spot they had been taken but it was no easy
task given the 400 square mile area his wife barely saw him during this period the
afternoon of Sunday October 10th Hindley went to see her Grant who was staying with Nellie and Nellie's new
lover bill Nellie had separated from Hindley's father Bob despite being at the house during the murder and at other
times when Brady and Hindley were cleaning up after previous murders gran said she knew nothing
Hindley's father Bob didn't want anything to do with either her or Maureen because they knew about Nellie's
affair with Bill and didn't tell him on Monday morning October 11th Hindley met Robert Fitzpatrick Brady's
solicitor she told him she went along with what Brady said about Edward after this meeting police tried to question
Hindley again but she sat in silence and refused to say anything at the Moores police for highlighting areas of
interest with yellow paint Manzi went through five negatives he had found that he believed would point to at
least one burial site a mass search was organized that involved all police forces in the area
inspector John Chaddock from Upper mill the largest village in Saddleworth was brought over to help since he knew the
area well at 12:15 p.m. that afternoon Terral and mounds he questioned Brady about two of the missing children Jon
Kilbride and Keith Bennett when Manzi kept pressing Brady about John Brady said I've read about him I think but I
don't know anything of him the two detectives then focused on Brady's disposal plan and two specific words
that appeared on the sheets of paper periodically unmoved I asked if this term worked as a reminder to check that
the burial sites hadn't been touched Brady shrugged at him and said it's only to do with evidence at 3:00 p.m. that
afternoon Hindley was charged for being an accessory to Edwards murder Hindley said she had nothing to say
until she saw Brady solicitor Hindley was escorted out of the interrogation room and into a tiled cell in the
basement where her mug shot was taken she was then taken back upstairs to have her fingerprints done a policewoman told
her she should confess because it wasn't worth sacrificing herself for a man Hindley kept looking forward and didn't
say a thing Brady was questioned extensively for the rest of that afternoon at one point
means he said to him but I think you have feelings at all the only feelings you have gada for your
dog will destroy your dog and maybe you'll realize what it's like to lose something you love
Brady remained silent mounds he stood up and as he was leaving the room he called
Brady a bastard before slamming the door shut the interview ended at 8:00 p.m. and Brady was driven to Risley remand
Center 50 kilometers west of Hyde police station Hindley was driven to Rizzoli remand Center as well in a different car
they'll both placed in separate rooms from other inmates work was already out that they were being investigated for
the murders of children and there were a few inmates who wanted to get their hands on them on Tuesday morning October
12th a prison officer handed Hindley a letter from Brady in the letter Brady told her who would be given life
imprisonment and he wouldn't be able to bear it so he wanted her to be brave like Emma Goering the former wife of
Herman Goering who'd been a leading member of the Nazi Party Emme had hosted many Nazi events and
dubbed herself the first lady of the Third Reich in 1946 Herman was going to be hanged but instead he took cyanide
and committed suicide Brady was telling Hindley he would have the same destiny and that after he was dead his influence
on her would ease and should be able to begin a new life without him on the last line he wrote he loved her
in German Hindley asked the governor it recently she could see Brady before their first
court appearance and her request was granted they met in a room without separated by
a sheet of glass Brady was wearing the suit he was arrested in and smiled when he saw him he was in prison clothes she
said she was saving her clothes for court Brady told her to visit rizz Lee's library to keep her mind off things
before asking her if she was able to get rid of the receipt for the suitcases thought at the luggage department in
Manchester central railway station Hindley shook her head and said she wasn't able to go back for it because
police had been guarding the house the entire time their seat for the luggage storage hadn't be found but police had
found a receipt for the rental of a white Ford registration number 9 - 75 nd on November 23rd 1963 the same day John
kilbride disappeared head of Manchester City police John Terrell got together with the head of Cheshire County out at
Benfield and the head of Lancashire County they compared their missing person files and looked for possible
links to Brady in Hindley they initially came up with 12 cases which they narrowed down to 8 those 8 included John
killbride Keith Bennett Pauline Reade and Lesley and Downey at the Moores officers were searching by
pushing sticks into the ground they would then sniff the end of the sticks and if the end of smelled of
putrefaction they'd know there was a body in that spot they were also able to identify a few of the locations in the
photographs but no bodies were found in those spots reporters heard about the search and they started arriving in
large numbers the Manchester Evening News posted two articles that day one headlined police in mystery be gone
Moore's and to the other forensic men comb terraced house of Secrets at 16 Waddle Brook Avenue forensic experts
went through the house and found blood on the skirt coat and shoes Hindley had worn the night of Edwards murder at
11:25 a.m. on Thursday October 14th Manzi and Terrell visited grisly remains centre and questioned Hindley again
Nancy I've been told you visited Ashton market regularly for over two years particularly on Saturday afternoon
and it was there that john killbride was last seen Hindley that's not true meow see a girl called
Lesley and Downey who is 10 has been missing from her home since Boxing Day last year she was last seen on a
fairground off Hume or Lane in Manchester about half past five in the evening Hindley stared at Manzi for a moment
before asking what are you suggesting Manzi do you know anything about her disappearance Hindley
I don't know anything about her I've never been near a fairground after questioning Hindley me on CMT removed on
the brady they showed him some of the pictures and asked him where they were taken he did name some of the spots they
then asked him about the allegations David had made about Brady bragging about other murders and burying the
bodies on the moor baby didn't respond that same day Hindley wrote a letter to Elsie
Masterton her neighbor at waddle Brook Avenue to ask her to take care of puppet Elsie contacted the police immediately
not because of the letter but because she realized her 11 year old daughter patty had gone with Brady and in delije
to the moor several times and she might be able to help them in their search at 1:30 p.m. on Friday October 15th two
detectives picked up paddy from school and drove her to the mall paddy told them to drive through greenfield past
the Clarence pub go round the last Bend and stop at the sign paddy then pointed at the rocks of Hollen brown knoll she
told detectives this is the spot Brady and Hindley always took her to one of the detectives grabbed the map and saw
that Wesson didn't head was only a few kilometres away from this spot and maybe that was the WH Brady was referring to
in his disposal plans at 3:00 p.m. that afternoon the search was moved from Woodhead to Holland Brian all the spots
are 20 kilometres away from each other three buses filled with officers along with five police cars arrived at Colin
brown knoll and today marks certain places to be searched the following day as she was driven home paddy told the
detectives two more things she said she spent hours with Hindley sitting in a car while Brady was in the mall is
carrying us and that she remembered visiting the exact spot she had just pointed out on
Christmas Day 1964 one day before Lesley and Downey's disappearance that afternoon
Manzi arrived at hollenberg knoll and took out some of the photographs he realized that the black rocks in the
area matched the ones in some of the photos that had caught his attention he felt they were in the right spot
meanwhile the tek-tips car and fairly questioned David again David complained you'd already told them everything in
you but at one point as he was going through the same story he mentioned Brady had a thing for railway stations
this last comment resonated with car at hide police station Ben field was shouting one interrupts the entire
investigation up as the him the only victim was Edward Evans and they already had not only his killer but a person
acting as an accessory to his murder as far as he was concerned the investigation was done but car didn't
listen he made calls the different railway stations and asked each place to check their luggage departments while
there was in his office making these calls Ben field was screaming at mounds II that he had only one more day to
search them all then that was it it was over but one hour later everything changed
Carr found the suitcases in response to a call made from car an officer from the British Transport
Police found Brady suitcases in Manchester central railway stations luggage storage the officer opened one
of Brady's suitcases and described what he found I opened one there were all sorts of things inside German books
pornographic magazines a gun a knife Akash and there was a tape a reel-to-reel tape we played a bit of it
I don't know what it was but there was a little girl crying for her mum we switched it off
it was terrible car didn't tell Benfield of his discovery at first because he didn't trust him Benfield was still
screaming that it was all a big waste of time and they needed to move on car went
to Manchester Central and collected the suitcases and took them back to hide police station Karen Fairley went
through the contents they found photographs of a little girl in all of them she had a scarf pulled tightly
around her face and she wasn't wearing anything other than socks and shoes they knew Hindley and brady weren't going
anywhere so they decided to call it a night and go back through the contents more thoroughly the next day they didn't
know who the girl was in the photos and identifying her would be their number-one priority they didn't have the
wait long Fairley went to Carr's house for dinner that night after dinner they watched TV and a photograph of Lesley
and Donnie appeared on the screen as part of a special broadcast about the case they had just identified the girl
in Brady's suitcase car revealed his findings the next morning all of the senior detectives from the different
jurisdictions argued that they should take possession of the suitcases and lead the investigation but Benfield was
having none of it he suddenly changed his tune and declared he was in charge because his officers have found the
suitcases and Brady and Hindley were in his custody the suitcases were searched more thoroughly inside the blue suitcase
there were the following books the anti sex sexual anomalies and perversions cradle of erotic
the sex jungle the jewel in the Lotus confessions of a mask death rides a camel werewolf in Paris the perfumed
garden sexist Paris vision 28 satin legs in stilettos high heels and stockings the life and ideals of marquis de sade
which was wrapped up inside a Daily Mirror newspaper the kiss of the whip the Tropic of Cancer and another book
wrapped up inside a newspaper Mayan Kumpf by Adolf Hitler there are also soft porn magazines notes
papers and insurance in the tax form of Brady's string adhesive tape a communion
built a library ticket in the name of David Smith's father bullets a black wig and a diary belonging to Brady from that
year 1965 inside the brown suitcase there was another diary that belonged to Brady from 1962 Hindley's diary from
1964 Brady's birth certificate letters between gravy and Hindley more pornographic magazines a notebook that
belonged to Brady a key and a shoelace another key wrapped up in a cloth a box that had a caution side as well as a
black mask another cost that had the word new Rico written on it two knives one of which was a Nazi SS knife a study
on Jack the Ripper a pamphlet on family planning that was addressed to inglese old house on burn-up Street but to
another woman 54 photo negatives 55 photo prints and two tapes a reel-to-reel tape recorder was brought
into the office and the detectives started playing the tapes the first one kicked off with Brady chanting German
then marching music followed with a goon sketch followed with a talk about Hitler
from the BBC program any questions into then suddenly the last track started with the layout scream of Leslie and
Donnie Pat Clayton an officer who worked closely with me on Z said this about the
tape I heard the tape many many times and it was probably more horrendous the more you heard it the more you could
understand what was being said it got worse detective car returned home that night
sat on a chair and started crying he said I thought about the little girls voice on the tape and about how I would
feel if that had been my daughter Hindley was a willing partner in the atrocities that were taking place
according to Ben field that same day was supposed to be the last day of the search on the Moors Saturday October
16th 1965 the rest of the police forces had given up on finding anything there mountie started searching early
believing you'd find John he said my boys up there Nancy organized the group of 12 people from Ashland underline with
a few more joining in from a neighboring station Robert Spears one of the officers who
were searching kept looking up at the hills that were nearby he had a feeling there was something there but he didn't
say anything and he kept on searching where he was taught at midday miyanji left the moors and another
detective was put in charge of the search at 2:30 p.m. he called the search off and they started packing up Spears
realized that if he wanted to go with his gut it was Now or Never he decided to go up the hill when he got
there he was unable to see much because of a heavy mist as he was heading back he saw a sort of pond with something
white sticking out of it he went in to take a better look but couldn't make out what it was so he grabbed the stick and
poked the water was too dirty to see anything properly but there was an overpowering smell
he ran back to meet up with the rest of the officers and told the detective in charge that he went up the hill to take
a piss and he had found something Spears grabbed a rod and headed back up the hill the detective in charge started
following after him with the rest of the team all them grumbling until Speer showed them what he called the white
withering thing that stuck out of the water the officer started digging to drain the pond as though doing so the
detective in charge told spheres he was an idiot and they should have been heading back by now but instead they
were stuck there for what was probably a sheep it wasn't the white withering thing as described wasp ears was the
mutilated forearm of a child along with it the officers came upon a tartan skirt
buckled shoes and if the remains of a body there was one photographer left at the
scene and he had seen the movement of the officers he asked what they found they told him it was just the sheep but
the photographer kept hanging around the officers didn't want the news out just yet so they created a diversion they
split up into two groups the first group all into a van and drove back to Ashton
underlined the photographer followed then the second group stayed hidden inside a second bin waiting until the
photographer was gone they then called me on Z from the Clarence pub and told him what they'd fear not me and she
drove back to the mall and Spears took him to the spot Manzi corporate pathologists and providing intense the
pathologists who attended the same where professor Cyril Paulson had a forensic medicine at Leeds University and his
colleague David G who would later become the head pathologist in the Yorkshire Ripper case they had found the body of
Lesley and Danny she had her clothes pot on top of her face there was the blue coat the pink cardigan the tartan skirt
socks shoes and white plastic beach from the necklace her brother won for her G noted that the skeleton remains of the
left arm which was the arm speed Singh was extended above her head in the hand was missing the right arm
was beneath the body and both of her legs were flexed to meet her head just how Brady had instructed David Smith to
tie Edward up her entire body was naked and one of the detectives at the scene was surprised that the fact that half
her body was perfectly preserved and half of it was unrecognizable in his own words one half was destroyed no features
nothing Leslie's body was transported to the more tree in Upper Mill the post-mortem was conducted by G paulsen
and a third pathologist G concluded smothering was Leslie's cause of death Leslie's mother in was brought in to
identify her body upon seeing her in said for some reason the sheet had been drawn up to hide the right side of her
torso and face she looked beautiful she seemed to be asleep her dark curly hair spilled out over the protective sheet I
winced as I saw the swelling around her lips It was as if she had bitten hard on
them Leslie lays so silently she had always been a quiet girl but this silent stillness was something I had not
experienced before this was the absolute and final stillness of death my Leslie was dead I knew it now I knew it but
could not accept it and asked the touch Leslie or to take a lock of her hair with her but she wasn't allowed to when
she got home the press was waiting for Robert Spears found out about the body's identity from the news he said he
couldn't sleep that night and added quote I couldn't get the side of the hill and the protruding bone out
of my mind I couldn't forget the smell once we drain the hollow death has a smell and on the more it was distinct
during that weekend David Smith was out with his father when they stopped at a newsstand and saw the headline body
found on more it was then that everything became an actual reality to David and he realized Brady hadn't been
drunkenly blubbing all those nights he'd actually killed several times and buried
his victims on the moor just like he said he had meanwhile the police prepared themselves to
re-interview Brady and Hindley about Leslie and Donny to be continued [Music] you

Case 49: The Moors Murders (Part 2)

[Part 2 of 3]

(A recap of Part 1)

Ian Brady and Myra Hindley met while working together at Millwards Merchandising company. They committed the murder of 16-year-old Pauline Reade on the 12th of July 1963. Four months later the 23rd of November 1963 they murdered 12-year-old John Kilbride…

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Brief Summary

Ian Brady and Myra Hindley's murders of children, their methods, and the police investigation are detailed in this chilling episode.

Key points

Keith Bennett's Disappearance. The tragic story of 12-year-old Keith Bennett and his encounter with Brady and Hindley.
Winnie's Despair. Winnie Bennett's emotional turmoil as she copes with her son's disappearance.
A Disturbing Invitation. David and Maureen receive an unexpected invitation from Myra Hindley after their wedding.
Hindley and Brady's Dark Plans. On Christmas Day, Brady and Hindley plot a new murder, planning to take their victim home.
Desperate Search for Leslie. Leslie's family launches a frantic search after she doesn't return home from the fair.
The Murder of Edward Evans. In a shocking turn, Brady brutally murders Edward Evans in front of David.

Episode highlights

Episode quotes

My senses told me he was dead but I just couldn't believe it.

Winnie's intuition about Keith's fate.

12:49WatchNov 19, 2018

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