489 - We Are Your Baby
- Jul 17, 2025
- 1:23:03
- Full Episode
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This week, Georgia covers the kidnapping of John Paul Getty III and Karen tells the story of the Pappygate bourbon heist.
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Brief Summary
The episode discusses the kidnapping of John Paul Getty III and the Pappygate bourbon heist by Toby Kurtzinger.
Key points
- Trust Me Podcast. Exploring cults and manipulation with hosts who are cult survivors.
- Hot Dog Phone Gift. A quirky birthday gift that sparks nostalgia and laughter.
- The Getty Kidnapping. In 1973, 16-year-old Paul Getty III is kidnapped, leading to a bizarre ransom tale.
- J. Paul Getty's Frugality. J. Paul Getty, the richest man in the world, was notoriously cheap, even with his family.
- Paul's Chaotic Childhood. Paul Getty III's privileged upbringing was marked by chaos and disconnection from his family.
- Getty's Reluctance. J. Paul Getty refuses to pay the ransom, citing his other grandchildren.
Episode highlights
- Trust Me PodcastExploring cults and manipulation with hosts who are cult survivors.“You're going to love this one. Trust me.”2:35Jul 17, 2025
- Hot Dog Phone GiftA quirky birthday gift that sparks nostalgia and laughter.“It's a hot dog phone!”13:37Jul 17, 2025
- The Getty KidnappingIn 1973, 16-year-old Paul Getty III is kidnapped, leading to a bizarre ransom tale.“What follows is a bizarre tale of ransom, severed ears, and a billionaire grandfather who refuses to pay up.”20:59Jul 17, 2025
- J. Paul Getty's FrugalityJ. Paul Getty, the richest man in the world, was notoriously cheap, even with his family.“He had a castle outside of London called Sutton Place... and he put in a payphone.”25:40Jul 17, 2025
- Paul's Chaotic ChildhoodPaul Getty III's privileged upbringing was marked by chaos and disconnection from his family.“He has absolutely no fond childhood memories.”28:33Jul 17, 2025
- Getty's ReluctanceJ. Paul Getty refuses to pay the ransom, citing his other grandchildren.“I have 14 other grandchildren. If I pay one penny now, then I'll have 14 kidnapped grandchildren.”41:12Jul 17, 2025
- Paul's Tragic FateAfter years of trauma, Paul suffers an overdose and is left paralyzed.“It's so heartbreaking. There's photos of him and it's just like you try to see the man he could have been.”50:54Jul 17, 2025
- The Rise of Toby KurtzingerToby starts working at Buffalo Trace Distillery in 1988 and quickly becomes immersed in the whiskey culture.“He works in shipping, then on the loading docks, gaining a deep understanding of the distillery.”59:26Jul 17, 2025
Tension
60/ 100Some tension
